Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (16 Aug 2020 02:36 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (16 Aug 2020 16:07 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Arthur A. Gleckler (16 Aug 2020 22:49 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (17 Aug 2020 00:22 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (17 Aug 2020 00:24 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Arthur A. Gleckler (17 Aug 2020 00:50 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (17 Aug 2020 05:44 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (17 Aug 2020 06:00 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (17 Aug 2020 14:48 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (17 Aug 2020 15:04 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (17 Aug 2020 15:05 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (17 Aug 2020 15:17 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (18 Aug 2020 04:28 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (18 Aug 2020 05:59 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (18 Aug 2020 15:43 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (18 Aug 2020 15:59 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (18 Aug 2020 16:01 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (18 Aug 2020 16:22 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Arthur A. Gleckler (18 Aug 2020 18:36 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (18 Aug 2020 19:10 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (18 Aug 2020 19:49 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (18 Aug 2020 20:13 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (18 Aug 2020 20:28 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (18 Aug 2020 20:40 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (18 Aug 2020 22:03 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2020 08:58 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (20 Aug 2020 12:45 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (20 Aug 2020 13:15 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (20 Aug 2020 14:41 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (20 Aug 2020 14:54 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (20 Aug 2020 15:25 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (20 Aug 2020 15:52 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (20 Aug 2020 16:03 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (20 Aug 2020 16:55 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (20 Aug 2020 17:05 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (20 Aug 2020 18:32 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (21 Aug 2020 04:56 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Shiro Kawai (21 Aug 2020 05:14 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (21 Aug 2020 08:00 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Shiro Kawai (21 Aug 2020 09:15 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (21 Aug 2020 09:19 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (21 Aug 2020 15:55 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (21 Aug 2020 16:56 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (21 Aug 2020 21:03 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (21 Aug 2020 22:38 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (22 Aug 2020 06:27 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (22 Aug 2020 16:23 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (24 Aug 2020 15:45 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (24 Aug 2020 18:01 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (24 Aug 2020 18:15 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (18 Aug 2020 20:25 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Arthur A. Gleckler (17 Aug 2020 06:22 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (17 Aug 2020 06:30 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Arthur A. Gleckler (17 Aug 2020 06:45 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 John Cowan (17 Aug 2020 14:04 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (17 Aug 2020 15:10 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (17 Aug 2020 15:42 UTC)
Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (17 Aug 2020 16:33 UTC)

Re: Remaining work on SRFI 178 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 24 Aug 2020 15:45 UTC

Am Sa., 22. Aug. 2020 um 18:23 Uhr schrieb John Cowan <xxxxxx@ccil.org>:
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> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 2:27 AM Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen <xxxxxx@nieper-wisskirchen.de> wrote:
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>>> Exactly so; thanks for the concise expression.  I think that Marc's complaint is mostly terminological: we shouldn't call it an unfold when it isn't.
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>> Yes. Exactly. Especially as tabulate is be more common or easier to understand.
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> I don't think it's more commonly used (ah for the good old Google code search!).  It also puts more of the burden on the user-supplied proc, whereas unfold handles state internally to itself.  I would not want to use tabulate except where the proc is already stateless.

Now that I have looked up "list-tabulate" of SRFI 1, I see that it
doesn't take any seeds and that the procedure doesn't deliver the next
set of seeds.

So what I have been really talking about is a mixture between
"list-tabulate" and "vector-unfold": The semantics of "vector-unfold"
and the name of "list-tabulate".

An extension of "list-tabulate" to allow seeds is both a natural thing
to do and could be added to R7RS-large while keeping SRFI
1-compatibility. The only problem is then really the naming. The
vector equivalent of "list-tabulate" would be "vector-unfold", which
in turn, is not the vector equivalent of "(list-)unfold".

Any ideas to get out of this unfortunate Babylonian confusion?

PS While I am writing this on the mailing list of SRFI 178, we cannot
slice the Gordian knot here. It is the same situation with the
irregular "=" (vs "=?") suffixes and irregular orderings of folds (as
in SRFI 1). But we should try to find a pleasant solution while the
development of R7RS-large is still going on.