Linear update, etc.
Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe
(08 Oct 2020 15:44 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Adam Nelson
(08 Oct 2020 17:27 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe
(08 Oct 2020 18:52 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
John Cowan
(08 Oct 2020 19:13 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(08 Oct 2020 19:28 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe
(08 Oct 2020 19:45 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(08 Oct 2020 19:52 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe
(08 Oct 2020 19:59 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(08 Oct 2020 20:06 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe
(08 Oct 2020 20:29 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc. Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (08 Oct 2020 20:37 UTC)
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Re: Linear update, etc.
Adam Nelson
(05 Feb 2021 05:26 UTC)
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Am Do., 8. Okt. 2020 um 22:29 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe <xxxxxx@sigwinch.xyz>: > > On 2020-10-08 22:06 +0200, Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen wrote: > > Am Do., 8. Okt. 2020 um 21:59 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe > > <xxxxxx@sigwinch.xyz>: > > > > > On 2020-10-08 21:52 +0200, Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen wrote: > > > > Am Do., 8. Okt. 2020 um 21:45 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe > > > > <xxxxxx@sigwinch.xyz>: > > > > > > > > > Yes. This is one reason why I'm rather sad that vector-set! can't be > > > > > linear update--there are plenty of immutable implementations of vectors > > > > > which can guarantee O(log n) access. > > > > > > > > What do you mean by linear-update here? > > > > > > > > Do you mean a non-destructive update instead? > > > > > > Yes, of course. I meant "linear update" in the sense of SRFI 1's > > > use of the term: > > > > > > > A "linear update" procedure is allowed -- but not required -- to > > > > side-effect its arguments in order to construct its result. > > > > But Scheme's vector-set! is already linear-update in this sense, more > > precisely, the following procedure is: > > > > (define (vector-amend! vec i obj) > > (vector-set! vec i obj) > > vec) > > > > Or do you complain about the existence of vector-set!, which means > > that Scheme vectors cannot be truly immutable? > > Yes, that's a bit limiting, in my humble opinion. And I do tend We could experiment with a Scheme that has no set!, no set-car!, no set-cdr!, no vector-set! and no string-set!. > to use vector-amend! in my own work, since it allows procedures > written in functional style to be easily adapted to vectors. > > But this is tangential. I do appreciate the implementation > freedom that linear update semantics provide. > > -- > Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe <xxxxxx@sigwinch.xyz> > > "All this currying's just a phase, though it seldom hinders." > --Fritz Ruehr