Safe versus unsafe arrays
Bradley Lucier
(28 Jul 2023 21:52 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Arthur A. Gleckler
(28 Jul 2023 22:19 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(29 Jul 2023 05:58 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Arthur A. Gleckler
(29 Jul 2023 06:00 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Bradley Lucier
(13 Aug 2023 19:49 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(13 Aug 2023 19:59 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
John Cowan
(29 Jul 2023 22:11 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(30 Jul 2023 07:41 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
John Cowan
(30 Jul 2023 08:46 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(30 Jul 2023 09:00 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Bradley Lucier
(30 Jul 2023 20:39 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(30 Jul 2023 20:49 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
John Cowan
(30 Jul 2023 21:37 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(31 Jul 2023 19:49 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays Bradley Lucier (12 Aug 2023 17:58 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(12 Aug 2023 18:09 UTC)
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Re: Safe versus unsafe arrays
John Cowan
(12 Aug 2023 19:22 UTC)
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On 7/28/23 5:52 PM, Bradley Lucier wrote: > I have come to regret the choice that initially, to hypothetically speed > array operations, the parameter specialized-array-default-safe? is not > #t, which would guarantee run-time checks of array getter and setter > arguments. It's not a good look when by default, a library crashes the > Scheme system when the programmer makes a mistake. > > The SRFI document implies, but does not explicitly say, those checks are > not in place when an array is created and > specialized-array-default-safe? is #f. > > I'm going to do some performance tests with Gambit's implementation of > SRFI 231, which tracks the sample implementation. If the performance > hit is not large, I may set Gambit's implementation to start with safe > arrays by default. > > In a Gambit PR Marc Feeley commented "I would have created 2 variants of > the SRFI: (srfi 231) and (srfi 231 unsafe) so that ... by default you > get the type checks ..." > > An interesting idea that would imply a compile-time choice of safe or > unsafe arrays instead of a runtime choice at array-creation time. > > Brad To maybe move this discussion in a slightly different direction ... I am not aware of any SRFI or RNRS that talks about "safety" or about faster code at the risk of crashing the system in the face of incorrect code. In fact, "safety" seems to be outside the realm of what SRFIs or Scheme standards describe. If SRFI 231 is the first and only SRFI or RNRS to add "safety" to a specification, then perhaps that was a mistake. Brad