Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Arthur A. Gleckler (08 Dec 2025 00:56 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Daphne Preston-Kendal (08 Dec 2025 03:58 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Daphne Preston-Kendal (08 Dec 2025 05:00 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference WANG Zheng (08 Dec 2025 07:09 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Daphne Preston-Kendal (09 Dec 2025 08:28 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference WANG Zheng (09 Dec 2025 09:08 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Arthur A. Gleckler (08 Dec 2025 05:07 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Daphne Preston-Kendal (08 Dec 2025 05:17 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Arthur A. Gleckler (08 Dec 2025 05:29 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Daphne Preston-Kendal (08 Dec 2025 05:45 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Arthur A. Gleckler (09 Dec 2025 04:32 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference WANG Zheng (09 Dec 2025 06:06 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Amirouche B. (09 Dec 2025 14:07 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Amirouche B. (09 Dec 2025 14:23 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Daphne Preston-Kendal (09 Dec 2025 08:22 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (09 Dec 2025 17:41 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Artyom Bologov (10 Dec 2025 21:36 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference WANG Zheng (11 Dec 2025 00:56 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Shiro Kawai (11 Dec 2025 01:31 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Arthur A. Gleckler (11 Dec 2025 01:38 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference WANG Zheng (11 Dec 2025 01:55 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Arthur A. Gleckler (11 Dec 2025 01:56 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference WANG Zheng (11 Dec 2025 02:05 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Wang Zheng (30 Jan 2026 11:24 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Daphne Preston-Kendal (30 Jan 2026 12:26 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (30 Jan 2026 12:37 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Peter McGoron (30 Jan 2026 14:00 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Peter McGoron (30 Jan 2026 14:14 UTC)
Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Arthur A. Gleckler (30 Jan 2026 19:17 UTC)

Re: Final SRFI 261: Portable SRFI Library Reference Daphne Preston-Kendal 08 Dec 2025 05:44 UTC

On 8 Dec 2025, at 06:29, Arthur A. Gleckler <xxxxxx@speechcode.com> wrote:

> I haven't been able to understand the force or substance of your disagreement in any other way, but please forgive me if I'm wrong.

I can summarize my position in one sentence:

If SRFIs represent the proposal of nobody but their author, then no other author should be able to come in later and make arbitrary changes to that proposal without their author’s consent.

To elaborate:

There are numerous SRFIs I disagree with in how they go about solving the problem they attempt to solve. If I want to do better, I will submit a new SRFI which I think does the same job but better. I will not propose to have the other SRFI author’s proposal, in the form of the library they defined, changed. I will define a new library which represents *my* proposal. And I will certainly not try to declare that the name the SRFI author assigned to their own library is wrong and try to change or remove it.

SRFI 261 does exactly this and is therefore an abuse of the process and should not have been accepted for finalization.

If this is based on a misunderstanding of the purpose of SRFIs or their process, please clarify. (On one minor point: in practice, of course, the ‘without their author’s consent’ part of the single-sentence summary is restricted by the limitations put on amendments by the SRFI process to anything which has been ‘finalized’. Let us set that aside as irrelevant.)

Daphne