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problem with is
Jakub T. Jankiewicz
(03 Apr 2026 09:56 UTC)
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Re: problem with is
Maciek Godek
(03 Apr 2026 11:23 UTC)
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Re: problem with is
Jakub T. Jankiewicz
(03 Apr 2026 13:13 UTC)
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Re: problem with is
Andrew Tropin
(03 Apr 2026 14:53 UTC)
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Re: problem with is
Andrew Tropin
(03 Apr 2026 14:51 UTC)
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Re: problem with is
Andrew Tropin
(03 Apr 2026 14:40 UTC)
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Re: problem with is
Jakub T. Jankiewicz
(03 Apr 2026 18:20 UTC)
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Re: problem with is John Cowan (03 Apr 2026 23:29 UTC)
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Re: problem with is
Andrew Tropin
(04 Apr 2026 04:41 UTC)
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Re: problem with is
Andrew Tropin
(04 Apr 2026 04:12 UTC)
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Another problem with "is" is that it isn't a noun phrase, which is appropriate for creating an object. "Make-assertion" would make sense to me. On Fri, Apr 3, 2026 at 2:20 PM Jakub T. Jankiewicz <xxxxxx@jcubic.pl> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 21:39:28 +0700 > Andrew Tropin <xxxxxx@trop.in> wrote: > > > On 2026-04-03 11:56, Jakub T. Jankiewicz wrote: > > > > > The name `is`, in its current form, is problematic. It doesn't make sense > > > semantically. `is` should compare two values not compare if something is > > > truthy. > > > > > > In normal sentence you have: > > > > > > x is y > > > > > > so the prefix notation should be: > > > > > > (is x y) > > > > > > > Hi Jakub! > > > > Your idea is very reasonable. Especially for the case with two > > arguments. For one argument `is` can be read differently. > > > > (define your-idea "`is` should compare two values") > > (is (very-reasonable? your-idea)) > > (is (string=? your-idea "`is` should assert truthness")) > > > > Try instead of `x is y` pattern use `it is so that ...`. > > > > it is so that your-idea conforms very-reasonable? predicate. > > > > is it so? > > but in your "is" the "what" is missing, you can't understand the code by just > reading it, you will need to read the documentation? Every symbol in R7RS have > the reason for the check (symbol? string?). `is` in your case is like using > question mark without a proper noun. > > > > > There are a few thoughts on the topic: > > 1. I'm not a native english speaker, but for me such reading make sense. > > So, probably is asserting thruthness of its argument can be a valid > > option. I may be wrong, but would be glad to hear input > > > > 2. It's much shorter. The test looks cleaner and easier to read. > > Subjective, of course. > > > > 3. assert is an overloaded term and `assert` is very likely provided in > > many implementations and in r6rs. `is` is free from assert's "baggage". > > `is` is short and not taken, ok. But it doesn't make sense with one argument. > Is is exactly like `=` that also doesn't make sense with one argument, it > checks nothing. > > Consider different name if you must use one argument like `valid?` or > `true?`. Since this is what you're checking. > > -- > Jakub T. Jankiewicz, Senior Front-End Developer > https://jakub.jankiewicz.org > https://lips.js.org > https://snapp.md > https://koduj.org