Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (22 May 2026 23:18 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (22 May 2026 23:26 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Peter McGoron (23 May 2026 00:02 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Peter McGoron (23 May 2026 01:18 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Peter McGoron (23 May 2026 13:44 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (23 May 2026 15:15 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (23 May 2026 16:28 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Peter McGoron (23 May 2026 17:00 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Peter McGoron (23 May 2026 17:02 UTC)
Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (24 May 2026 17:15 UTC)

Re: Proposed solution to the "predetermined states" problem Peter McGoron 23 May 2026 13:43 UTC

On 5/23/26 00:50, Shiro Kawai wrote:
>
> It appears that the implementation that produced the output you showed
> doesn't run "warmup" cycles during initialization---does it?
> Scrambled linear PNG needs to discard several dozen initial values
> to reach the state where the number of 1's and 0's are approximately the
> same
> in the state [1].   Otoh, I think once it is warmed up, any seed (except
> all 0's)
> produces the same quality of sequence.

You're right. (I just copied the xoshiro256++ code into a C file). An
implementer might make the same mistake I did, however.

-- Peter McGoron