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feedback
soo
(28 Mar 2004 11:58 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Shiro Kawai
(28 Mar 2004 13:01 UTC)
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Re: feedback
soo
(08 Apr 2004 16:11 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(28 Mar 2004 18:04 UTC)
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Re: feedback
soo
(30 Mar 2004 10:28 UTC)
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Re: feedback Paul Schlie (30 Mar 2004 14:32 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(30 Mar 2004 14:38 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(30 Mar 2004 14:59 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(30 Mar 2004 15:24 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(30 Mar 2004 19:16 UTC)
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Re: feedback
soo
(31 Mar 2004 13:46 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(31 Mar 2004 14:58 UTC)
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Please consider:
- personally believe fmt-xxx should produce a string (or lazy stream) where
a quoted scheme object, when displayed and then read back, would would be
equivalent, if not quoted, it's simply evaluated and then correspondingly
treated. which I suspect would be more generally useful and intuitive:
- Per your example below:
(fmt-str a (fmt-num 12 -t s: '+ f: 3) " " #\a " str " '(3 #\s "string"))
=> "(10 3 +) #e+12.000 a str '(3 #\\s \"string\")"
note: where fmt parameters have the form of:
-X if parameter-less, i.e. -t for display type prefix
X: if parameterized, i.e. s: <sign> or f: <fraction-digits>
- the value of fmt-xxx potentially yielding/consuming ports (or streams),
is that it enables lazily evaluated arbitrary length hierarchically
specified format specifications; which would likely be otherwise
potentially physically impractical to achieve.
(which format does not enable)
Thanks, -paul-
> From: soo <xxxxxx@tilde.co.kr>
> ...
> In SRFI-48 mailing list, Marc Feeley said:
> ...
> To make printing easier, a general purpose function called "print"
> could be added with this definition:
> (define (print . lst) (for-each display lst))
> allowing
> (print "list: " (field '(one "two" 3)))
> ...
>
> Likewise, we can make a procedure:
> (define (cat . objects)
> (get-output-string
> (let ((string-port (open-output-string)))
> (for-each (lambda (object)
> (display object string-port))
> objects)
> string-port)))
>
> Examples:
> (cat 12 " " #\a " str " '(3 #\s "string"))
> (fmt 12 " " (fmt #\a) " str " (fmt '(3 #\s "string")))
> => "12 a str (3 s string)"
>
> (define a '(10 3 +))
> (cat a (fmt 12 10 3 '+) " " #\a " str " (fmt '(3 #\s "string") write))
> (cat a (apply fmt 12 a) " " #\a " str " (fmt '(3 #\s "string") write))
> (fmt a (fmt 12 10 3 '+) " " (fmt #\a) " str " (fmt '(3 #\s "string") write))
> => "(10 3 +) #e+12.000 a str (3 #\\s \"string\")"
>
> | - as observed in the earlier srfi-48 discussions, it may even be better
> | (both more general, and efficient) to define that resulting format functions
> | yield string-ports, rather than strings; which could then even be made more
> | general if formatting functions themselves were able to accept string-ports,
> | such that more complex hierarchically defined formats may be defined as
> | desired.
>
> FMT manipulates not string ports but strings.
>
> If we have a procedure like `open-output-string?', we can make FMT to append
> the strings in the string ports to the resulting string like <string>
> parameter.
>
> Additionally, even though FMT is not fully extensible, If <output-port>
> parameter is added to FMT, it can print the resulting string like FORMAT, and
> If <input-port> parameter is added, `file->string' function can be added, and
> If <separator> parameter is added like '(#\, 3), comma separator function can
> be added.
>
> | - lastly, although personally I too would like format specifications to be
> | as succinct as possible, I suspect that all format specifications containing
> | more than a single specifier should be tagged with at least a single letter
> | semi-descriptive symbol to both give a hint as to what the specified
> | controls, and to enable them to be only defined as required in arbitrary
> | ordered lists as convenient to the author, and/or to enable their more
> | flexible construction.
>
> I'll consider it, if conflicts occur among the format specifications.
> Anyway, I think it leaves some room for consideration.
>
> | With a little luck, the above is hopefully also be consistent with your
> | goals for this srfi as well?
>
> | -paul-
>
> Thanks.
>
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> INITERM
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