feedback
soo
(28 Mar 2004 11:58 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Shiro Kawai
(28 Mar 2004 13:01 UTC)
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Re: feedback
soo
(08 Apr 2004 16:11 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(28 Mar 2004 18:04 UTC)
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Re: feedback
soo
(30 Mar 2004 10:28 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(30 Mar 2004 14:32 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(30 Mar 2004 14:38 UTC)
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Re: feedback Paul Schlie (30 Mar 2004 14:59 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(30 Mar 2004 15:24 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(30 Mar 2004 19:16 UTC)
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Re: feedback
soo
(31 Mar 2004 13:46 UTC)
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Re: feedback
Paul Schlie
(31 Mar 2004 14:58 UTC)
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And further sorry, obviously the format keys should themselves have been quoted as well to keep things simple, potentially implying that a parameter-less specifiers should simply have the form of: 'X ... (fmt-str a (fmt-num 12 't 's: '+ 'f: 3) " " #\a " str " '(3 #\s "string")) => "(10 3 +) #e+12.000 a str (3 #\\s \"string\")" [ apparently, not thinking straight this morning, hope I haven't screwed anything else up? ] -paul- > From: Paul Schlie <xxxxxx@comcast.net> > Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:38:06 -0500 > To: Paul Schlie <xxxxxx@comcast.net>, <srfi-54@srfi.schemers.org> > Subject: Re: feedback > > Sorry, last formatted list object should not have been quoted: > > => "(10 3 +) #e+12.000 a str (3 #\\s \"string\")" > > >> From: Paul Schlie <xxxxxx@comcast.net> >> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:32:21 -0500 >> To: <srfi-54@srfi.schemers.org> >> Subject: Re: feedback >> Resent-From: srfi-54@srfi.schemers.org >> Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:32:35 +0200 (DFT) >> >> Please consider: >> >> - personally believe fmt-xxx should produce a string (or lazy stream) where >> a quoted scheme object, when displayed and then read back, would would be >> equivalent, if not quoted, it's simply evaluated and then correspondingly >> treated. which I suspect would be more generally useful and intuitive: >> >> - Per your example below: >> >> (fmt-str a (fmt-num 12 -t s: '+ f: 3) " " #\a " str " '(3 #\s "string")) >> >> => "(10 3 +) #e+12.000 a str '(3 #\\s \"string\")" >> >> note: where fmt parameters have the form of: >> -X if parameter-less, i.e. -t for display type prefix >> X: if parameterized, i.e. s: <sign> or f: <fraction-digits> >> >> - the value of fmt-xxx potentially yielding/consuming ports (or streams), >> is that it enables lazily evaluated arbitrary length hierarchically >> specified format specifications; which would likely be otherwise >> potentially physically impractical to achieve. >> >> (which format does not enable) >> >> Thanks, -paul- >> >>> From: soo <xxxxxx@tilde.co.kr> >>> ... >>> In SRFI-48 mailing list, Marc Feeley said: >>> ... >>> To make printing easier, a general purpose function called "print" >>> could be added with this definition: >>> (define (print . lst) (for-each display lst)) >>> allowing >>> (print "list: " (field '(one "two" 3))) >>> ... >>> >>> Likewise, we can make a procedure: >>> (define (cat . objects) >>> (get-output-string >>> (let ((string-port (open-output-string))) >>> (for-each (lambda (object) >>> (display object string-port)) >>> objects) >>> string-port))) >>> >>> Examples: >>> (cat 12 " " #\a " str " '(3 #\s "string")) >>> (fmt 12 " " (fmt #\a) " str " (fmt '(3 #\s "string"))) >>> => "12 a str (3 s string)" >>> >>> (define a '(10 3 +)) >>> (cat a (fmt 12 10 3 '+) " " #\a " str " (fmt '(3 #\s "string") write)) >>> (cat a (apply fmt 12 a) " " #\a " str " (fmt '(3 #\s "string") write)) >>> (fmt a (fmt 12 10 3 '+) " " (fmt #\a) " str " (fmt '(3 #\s "string") write)) >>> => "(10 3 +) #e+12.000 a str (3 #\\s \"string\")" >>> >>> | - as observed in the earlier srfi-48 discussions, it may even be better >>> | (both more general, and efficient) to define that resulting format >>> functions >>> | yield string-ports, rather than strings; which could then even be made >>> more >>> | general if formatting functions themselves were able to accept >>> string-ports, >>> | such that more complex hierarchically defined formats may be defined as >>> | desired. >>> >>> FMT manipulates not string ports but strings. >>> >>> If we have a procedure like `open-output-string?', we can make FMT to append >>> the strings in the string ports to the resulting string like <string> >>> parameter. >>> >>> Additionally, even though FMT is not fully extensible, If <output-port> >>> parameter is added to FMT, it can print the resulting string like FORMAT, >>> and >>> If <input-port> parameter is added, `file->string' function can be added, >>> and >>> If <separator> parameter is added like '(#\, 3), comma separator function >>> can >>> be added. >>> >>> | - lastly, although personally I too would like format specifications to be >>> | as succinct as possible, I suspect that all format specifications >>> containing >>> | more than a single specifier should be tagged with at least a single >>> letter >>> | semi-descriptive symbol to both give a hint as to what the specified >>> | controls, and to enable them to be only defined as required in arbitrary >>> | ordered lists as convenient to the author, and/or to enable their more >>> | flexible construction. >>> >>> I'll consider it, if conflicts occur among the format specifications. >>> Anyway, I think it leaves some room for consideration. >>> >>> | With a little luck, the above is hopefully also be consistent with your >>> | goals for this srfi as well? >>> >>> | -paul- >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> INITERM >>> >> >