Consider a typical multi-CPU desktop or server computer. There are two or more CPU's, each with their own local cache on the CPU chip, and all the CPU's are connected to the same main memory. If a thread running in one CPU wants to make use of a value produced by a thread running on another CPU, then the following needs to happen: 1. The second thread produces the value, which is stored in the second CPU's local cache. 2. The second CPU flushes its cache out to main memory. 3. The first CPU is signaled that the value is now available. 4. The first CPU refreshes its local cache from main memory. 5. The first thread makes use of the value. A Scheme implementation that supports SRFI 18 Multithreading Support with threads running on multiple CPU's would typically perform such a CPU cache flush and reload when a mutex was locked or unlocked. Thus we can see that the cost *communicating* a value from one thread to another may be a lot more expensive *producing* that value in the first place. Given a DEFINE-IMMUTABLE definition such as (define-immutable identifier expression) The current draft define-immutable SRFI says that "Evaluating the identifier causes the expression to be evaluated, and the value of the identifier is the result of evaluating the expression. The expression is not evaluated unless and until the identifier is evaluated, and the expression is evaluated only once." So if evaluating the identifier the first time causes the expression to be evaluated, and the expression must be evaluated *only once*, and a programmer wishes to use a DEFINE-IMMUTABLE identifier with multiple threads with multiple CPU's, then whichever thread evaluates the identifier *first* must then communicate that unique value to the other threads. I can think of two ways of doing this, both bad. 1. Suppose the DEFINE-IMMUTABLE SRFI is published in its current form. Then programmers who wished to use SRFI 18 Multithreading Support together with SRFI 65 DEFINE-IMMUTABLE would know that they need to protect any concurrent modification of a data structure with a mutex lock. Since any use of a DEFINE-IMMUTABLE identifier might be the *first* usage which triggers the storage of the unique value, then each and every usage of a DEFINE-IMMUTABLE identifier should be performed only when a mutex lock is held. OK, that's really atrocious. 2. Or we could say, you should define the identifier and use it at least once in one thread, and then the immutable value can be used by other threads without locking. Which, while it works, unfortunately defeats the entire purpose of the DEFINE-IMMUTABLE form, which is to free the programmer from having to worry about the order of evaluation. Now, if the value produced by the DEFINE-IMMUTABLE expression really needs to be unique, then we're stuck with this. For example, if the expression returns a pair (such as the first pair in a list), and the programmer is going to be using EQ? or SET-CAR! on that pair, then that particular unique pair is going to have to be communicated to other threads that use it. But is this really necessary? Suppose as a programmer, I don't care if the expression is evaluated more than once. Naturally I don't want it to be evaluated *all the time*, because that would be terribly inefficient, but I might not mind if it got evaluated a few times. If the expression produces a list, I might only care that the list had the same elements in the sense of EQUAL?. Or, if the expression returned a procedure, that it was an equivalent procedure in the sense that if I call it with the same arguments I'm going to get the same result back. So the specification could say "the expression is evaluated only once in any given thread". Then different threads would end up with values that that might be different by EQ?, but would be equivalent by how the program used them. Yet, going further, what if DEFINE-IMMUTABLE wasn't a contract by the Scheme implementation to *make* the value immutable by evaluating the expression only once, but instead a contract by the *programmer* that any evaluation of the expression will produce a value that is equivalent as far as the rest of the program is concerned. Suppose the programmer writes: (define-immutable a (list 1 2 3)) Now this could be a valid assertion by the programmer depending on how A is used. It's not a valid assertion if the program contains code such as (EQ? A B) or (SET-CAR! A 5) etc., but would be a valid assertion if the program only had code such as (EQUAL? A B) or (+ 10 (CAR A)). If the program only ever referenced (CAR T), a silly (but still valid!) example would be: (define-immutable t (cons 14 (current-system-time))) So now the Scheme implementation is free to evaluate the expression any time that it would be more efficient to do so, or to use a cached value when that is available. And, this also gives the Scheme implementation the option of discarding cached values when memory is low. (define-immutable image (produce-very-large-bitmap-image)) Here the programmer is saying to the Scheme implementation, "cache this image if you can, but if you run out of memory you can go ahead and recompute it later if you need to".