My suggestions to the R6RS committee about numerics Bradley Lucier (18 May 2005 20:38 UTC)
Re: My suggestions to the R6RS committee about numerics David Van Horn (18 May 2005 21:02 UTC)
Re: My suggestions to the R6RS committee about numerics Aubrey Jaffer (20 May 2005 19:13 UTC)
Re: My suggestions to the R6RS committee about numerics Bradley Lucier (21 May 2005 16:13 UTC)
Re: My suggestions to the R6RS committee about numerics Bradley Lucier (02 Jun 2005 18:46 UTC)

Re: My suggestions to the R6RS committee about numerics Aubrey Jaffer 20 May 2005 19:13 UTC

 | From: Bradley Lucier <xxxxxx@math.purdue.edu>
 | Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:38:43 +0200
 |
 | .., I sent document about proposed changes to numerics to
 | Marc Feeley last March to forward to the committee.  Since then my
 | thinking has evolved a bit, but I thought I would just include my
 | comments verbatim here.
 |
 | Brad
 |
 | The first part deals with IEEE 754/854 arithmetic.  If you don't
 | support this arithmetic, then things are still up in the air.
 |
 | 6.1 Equivalence predicates
 | ...
 |     Note: This section does not state under which conditions eqv?
 |     returns #t or #f for inexact numbers that are not in IEEE 754/854
 |     format.  We recommend that numbers not in IEEE 754/854 format for
 |     which a base, sign, number of exponent digits, exponent bias,
 |     biased exponent, number of significand digits, and significand can
 |     be defined follow the same rules as above.

Why are you restricting the specification of inexacts to IEEE-754/854
arthmetic?

 | 6.2.5. Numerical operations
 |
 | (number? obj )                           procedure
 | (complex? obj )                          procedure
 | (real? obj )                             procedure
 | (rational? obj )                         procedure
 | (integer? obj )                          procedure
...
 | 			      <add this>
 | If an implementation uses IEEE 754/854 format for inexact numbers then:
 |
 | * If z is an inexact complex number, then (real? z) is true if and
 |   only if both (exact? (imag-part z)) and (zero? (imag-part z)) are
 |   true.
...
 | For implementations that allow (real z) and (imag z) to have different
 | exactness, then (exact? z) returns #t if and only if both (exact?
 | (real z)) and (exact? (imag z)) return #t.
 | 			  <end of addition>

A number is either exact or inexact; and a complex number (like a
rational number) is one number, not two.  Exactness thus applies to
the whole complex number, not to its components.

 | 		  <change the following predicates>
 | (zero? z) library procedure
 | (positive? x) library procedure
 | (negative? x) library procedure
 | (odd? n) library procedure
 | (even? n) library procedure
 | These numerical predicates test a number for a particular
 | property, returning #t or #f.
 |
 | If an implementation uses IEEE 754/854 format for its inexact numbers,
 | then zero?, positive?, and negative? return #f if called with a NaN
 | argument.

The names of the arguments already restrict positive?, negative?, odd?
and even? to argument types to which NaN does not belong.  Passing NaN
to them is an error.

 | 		  <change the following procedures>
 |
 | (max x1 x2 : : : ) library procedure
 | (min x1 x2 : : : ) library procedure
 |
 | These procedures return the maximum or minimum of their arguments.
 |
 | (max 3 4) =) 4 ; exact
 | (max 3.9 4) =) 4.0 ; inexact
 |
 | If an implementation uses IEEE 754/854 format for its inexact numbers,
 | and any of the arguments to max and min are NaNs, then max and min
 | returns one of the NaN arguments as its result.

IEEE NaN is not real, having no position in the well-ordered
real-numbers.  It is thus an illegal argument to MAX, MIN, <, <=, >,
and >=.

 | 		  <change the following procedures>
 | (+ z1 : : : ) procedure
 | (* z1 : : : ) procedure
 |
 | These procedures return the sum or product of their arguments.
 |
 | (+ 3 4) =) 7
 | (+ 3) =) 3
 | (+) =) 0
 | (* 4) =) 4
 | (*) =) 1
 |
 |     Note: We recommend that (+ 0 z) => z, (* 1 z) => z, and (* 0 z) =>
 |     0 for all z.  This simplifies some rules for addition and
 |     multiplication for complex and inexact numbers if an
 |     implementation uses IEEE 754/854 format for its inexact
 |     arithmetic.

Processors have either hardware to manipulate floating-point numbers,
or library routines to emulate the hardware.  Changing the IEEE-754
rules (so that 0 * NaN --> 0) will complicate, not simplify the
implementation of numerics.