Re: the discussion so far
John.Cowan
(17 Jul 2005 07:29 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far John.Cowan (20 Jul 2005 05:07 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far
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(20 Jul 2005 17:27 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far
John.Cowan
(20 Jul 2005 19:28 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(20 Jul 2005 19:30 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far
John.Cowan
(20 Jul 2005 19:41 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far
bear
(20 Jul 2005 23:56 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far
Alex Shinn
(21 Jul 2005 01:36 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far
John.Cowan
(21 Jul 2005 01:47 UTC)
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Re: the discussion so far
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(21 Jul 2005 08:52 UTC)
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Thomas Bushnell BSG scripsit: > When you provide a function that does almost-the-right-thing, you are > encouraging programmers to use it. The only case where you have > identified a value to this function (when implemented as a simple > radix comparator on codepoints) is when you have binary search trees > which you want to exchange between scheme systems. I picked that as a counterexample to the claim that there were no such use cases. > Yet, this function will not be used only for that purpose. Instead, > it will be used just as the R5RS function is: a general purpose way of > sorting strings to alphebetize them for human-readable output. Then document that it should not be used in that way. > Any programmer, you see, who wants to write code that Does The Right > Thing and uses this function, thinking, "oh, this will sort strings > usefully for human readable output", will be wildly misled. On their > scheme system it will be fine, but then on a fancy enough scheme > system, with full Unicode support, their code will break. > > It would have been better to tell them "Scheme has no portable way to > sort strings for human-readable output" than to provide a function > which is almost right. I quite agree that such a disclaimer is very much in order; I note that R5RS does not say that the procedures in question *can* be used for such a purpose, and indeed they cannot reliably be so used. -- John Cowan xxxxxx@reutershealth.com www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan The whole of Gaul is quartered into three halves. -- Julius Caesar