Re: fixnumXXX and fxXXX names, and other things William D Clinger (18 Jun 2006 17:47 UTC)
Re: fixnumXXX and fxXXX names, and other things Aubrey Jaffer (19 Jun 2006 02:04 UTC)
Re: fixnumXXX and fxXXX names, and other things Marc Feeley (19 Jun 2006 05:00 UTC)
Re: fixnumXXX and fxXXX names, and other things Per Bothner (19 Jun 2006 05:15 UTC)
Re: fixnumXXX and fxXXX names, and other things Marc Feeley (19 Jun 2006 12:34 UTC)

Re: fixnumXXX and fxXXX names, and other things Per Bothner 19 Jun 2006 05:15 UTC

Marc Feeley wrote:
> I repeat: in which implementations of
> Scheme will the multiple values API be faster than the equivalent pair
> of operations which return single values?

Ones in which the operation can be inlined by a compiler.

Of course inlining may be contrary to a strict reading of at least
R5RS, unless you're doing whole-program compilation, which further
reduces the value of standardizing these functions.

 > I find SRFI 77's complexity to be a real turn-off when I
> consider the changes required to implement it properly.  Surely I'm not
> the only implementer to feel this way.

You're not.

Though a tuned reference implementation that makes uses of a small
number of implementation-optimized primitives would help.  But
please note that in some implementations "efficient fixnums" may
mean unboxed C/C++/Java values rather than general Scheme values.
Some of us need to be able to classify at compile time whether
a name or expression is a boxed object or an unboxed native number.
Similar for floating point - that is even more common, I suspect.
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