Scheme Foundation
Lassi Kortela
(02 Oct 2024 15:12 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Arthur A. Gleckler
(02 Oct 2024 15:21 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Antero Mejr
(02 Oct 2024 17:11 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Lassi Kortela
(02 Oct 2024 17:46 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Daphne Preston-Kendal
(02 Oct 2024 18:46 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Antero Mejr
(02 Oct 2024 19:04 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Lassi Kortela
(02 Oct 2024 19:52 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation Antero Mejr (02 Oct 2024 22:39 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Lassi Kortela
(03 Oct 2024 06:38 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
MSavoritias
(03 Oct 2024 07:25 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
chohag@xxxxxx
(03 Oct 2024 10:31 UTC)
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Hub and spokes
Lassi Kortela
(03 Oct 2024 12:48 UTC)
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Re: Hub and spokes
MSavoritias
(04 Oct 2024 10:29 UTC)
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Re: Hub and spokes
chohag@xxxxxx
(04 Oct 2024 12:12 UTC)
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Re: Hub and spokes
MSavoritias
(04 Oct 2024 10:31 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Arthur A. Gleckler
(02 Oct 2024 20:14 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Antero Mejr
(02 Oct 2024 22:13 UTC)
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Re: Scheme Foundation
Vladimir Nikishkin
(03 Oct 2024 06:42 UTC)
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Lassi Kortela <xxxxxx@lassi.io> writes: > Do you envision it primarily for distributing money and/or holding assets? (I > guess organizing events involves both.) Yes to both. The programs can be as extensive as the members want. People will probably have better ideas. But here are some I think would be good: - hosting for projects/libraries/docs - virtual talks/discussion groups - providing infrastructure (build servers, package servers, etc.) - resources for implementers (sample/reference libraries, test and benchmarking suites) - writing semantics for the standards - hosting communication channels (besides the existing mailing lists) - promoting projects (across scheme.org, social media, etc.) - discoverability (shared search tools across projects/docs) - encouraging compatibility and connections between Scheme programs and their respective maintainers. Another benefit of the foundation is better survivability of Scheme projects: if a maintainer is unable to continue on something (like a reference library, for example), it will be easier to find volunteers in a foundation, since it would be known who is interested and available. > If the foundation runs development programs, how are those different from what > we do now? Paying money? Money doesn't have to be involved. There is just many more opportunities for nonprofits with some degree of organization. Here's an example: some universities in the Boston area teach Scheme, and have clubs dedicated to free software. If I say to them "hey let's work on Scheme", that's not convincing. If I say "I'm a member of the Scheme Foundation, we currently have a program to develop libraries X, Y, and Z, we have meetings in Boston and online at this time every month, is anyone interested?" that is much better. And then we get more people into Scheme, who could become key contributors. > From my POV, what's needed is to acknowledge our existing problems and propose > convincing ways to solve them. That's what a foundation does. I already listed 8 problems in the old thread. My proposal for addressing them is the foundation. > We have talented and dedicated people working on this and good > proposals are still few and far between. It's an enormously hard > multi-disciplinary problem. Would it be helpful for someone (me) to write up a sample set of bylaws and mission statement for people to comment on? Before starting on that, it would be good to have an idea of who would join and who would fill the leadership roles, so it can be determined if the idea is feasible in the first place. > A common attitude among schemers is, "This approach (which just so happens to be > my favorite) represents Scheme. Other approaches are of no consequence, it's > annoying that they exist." I expect a new, more formal power structure to > amplify this already severe problem. Having a bylaw preventing foundation interference in the standards (and vice-versa) will eliminate that incentive.