The Scheme Cookbook
Arthur A. Gleckler
(08 May 2019 21:12 UTC)
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Fwd: The Scheme Cookbook
Arthur A. Gleckler
(21 Jan 2020 23:30 UTC)
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Re: The Scheme Cookbook
Jens Axel Søgaard
(21 Jan 2020 23:48 UTC)
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Re: The Scheme Cookbook
Arthur A. Gleckler
(21 Jan 2020 23:48 UTC)
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Re: The Scheme Cookbook
Lassi Kortela
(22 Jan 2020 00:13 UTC)
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Re: Fwd: The Scheme Cookbook Neil Van Dyke (22 Jan 2020 17:18 UTC)
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Re: Fwd: The Scheme Cookbook
Arthur A. Gleckler
(22 Jan 2020 19:31 UTC)
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Re: Fwd: The Scheme Cookbook
Neil Van Dyke
(23 Jan 2020 16:39 UTC)
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Hi, everyone. (And adding Noel Welsh, who was very involved in projects like the Scheme Cookbook at the time, although I understand he's now a Scala bigwig. :) I appreciate efforts to improve and promote portable Scheme. In answer to Arthur's question: I have no plans for the Scheme Cookbook. Two things to know about the old cookbook are that it's very out of date, and is also PLT-specific (see "cookbook/wiki/Cookbook_BeingPltSpecific.html"). Regarding being very out of date, I think you'll have to do a lot of work for it to not be counterproductive, both in how it tells people to do things, and in the impression it gives of being abandoned long ago. Regarding being PLT-specific, around the time of the cookbook, a bunch of us ended up moving from portable Scheme, to focus on and promote PLT Scheme, which later evolved into Racket. (PLT had some smart people with funding, but, had we supported and endorsed something like Gambit or MIT, at that early juncture, I suppose that other thing might've become the most popular one.) Around the time of the cookbook, I recall Matthias Felleisen as being very interested in and responsive to the user community, and he directed the grad students. That started changing as the students became professors, and then the other people who'd helped make PLT useful and popular no longer seemed to be listened to or included like before. Were I doing a Scheme thing today, it would be more portable, or at least pick an implementation that's more meritocracy or democracy than royalty. If you're starting a new venture in the Scheme space, and it involves community or any kind of multiple contributors, a suggestion I'd like to make is that you be very clear about goals/motivations, in whose interests the work is being done, whether the "community" is something that is owned/ruled/served/represented/otherwise, etc. There are many valid arrangements, so long as people know what they're getting into. So I propose that any time we involve a community, especially in modern dotcom business model times, we should be clear about the nature of community and leadership/governance. Neil Arthur A. Gleckler wrote on 1/21/20 6:30 PM: > Hello, Jens and Neil. We're hoping to reach you in case we might > preserve some of the work you did for the Scheme cookbook. Please see > our message to Anton Van Straaten below. We never managed to reach > him, but we found your names on the Archive.org copy of the Scheme > cookbook, too. > > Do you have any plans for the cookbook yourself, or do you know > whether the other editors do? > > Thanks. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Arthur A. Gleckler* <xxxxxx@speechcode.com > <mailto:xxxxxx@speechcode.com>> > Date: Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:12 PM > Subject: The Scheme Cookbook > To: Anton Van Straaten <xxxxxx@appsolutions.com > <mailto:xxxxxx@appsolutions.com>>, Anton Van Straaten > <xxxxxx@gmail.com <mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com>> > Cc: <xxxxxx@srfi.schemers.org <mailto:xxxxxx@srfi.schemers.org>> > > > First, thank you for all your contributions to Scheme and the Scheme > community over the years. > > A few of us Schemers, organized at xxxxxx@srfi.schemers.org > <mailto:xxxxxx@srfi.schemers.org> (subscribe > <https://srfi.schemers.org/scheme-lists-subscribe.html>), recently > noticed that your Scheme cookbook had fallen off the web. We're > interested in preserving it and, ideally, bringing it back to life, > but we wanted to check with you first in case you have plans for it. > > We've managed to retrieve a copy from the Wayback Machine > <https://archive.org/web/>. It's now hosted at > https://github.com/schemedoc/cookbook. > > Do you have any plans for the cookbook yourself, or do you know > whether the other editors do? (Or do you know how to reach the other > editors?) > > On behalf of the folks at Schemedoc (Github > <https://github.com/schemedoc>), thank you very much. > > > Arthur A. Gleckler, > SRFI Editor