Please drop the ^main^ thing
Abdulaziz Ghuloum
(25 Sep 2009 00:21 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(25 Sep 2009 18:23 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(25 Sep 2009 19:37 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(25 Sep 2009 19:42 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(25 Sep 2009 19:40 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(25 Sep 2009 19:47 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Abdulaziz Ghuloum
(26 Sep 2009 08:37 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Shiro Kawai
(25 Sep 2009 19:59 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing Andreas Rottmann (25 Sep 2009 20:33 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(25 Sep 2009 22:04 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(26 Sep 2009 01:16 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(25 Sep 2009 21:02 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Shiro Kawai
(25 Sep 2009 22:07 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(26 Sep 2009 01:07 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Shiro Kawai
(26 Sep 2009 02:16 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Abdulaziz Ghuloum
(26 Sep 2009 06:10 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Shiro Kawai
(26 Sep 2009 07:59 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Abdulaziz Ghuloum
(26 Sep 2009 08:14 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Derick Eddington
(27 Sep 2009 03:26 UTC)
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Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing
Shiro Kawai
(27 Sep 2009 04:59 UTC)
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Re: [OT] English
Derick Eddington
(27 Sep 2009 05:29 UTC)
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Shiro Kawai <xxxxxx@lava.net> writes: > From: Derick Eddington <xxxxxx@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Please drop the ^main^ thing > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:23:22 -0700 > >> It's not only for single-component library names. If you have libraries >> (acme foo), (acme foo helper1), and (acme foo helper2), you may want >> them all organized under "acme/foo". > [...] >> A collection of libraries with common prefix (acme ---) might have an >> (acme) library and you may want all the libraries organized under >> "acme". I don't know how usual this will be. >> >> I've been under the impression there's enough demand for the >> organize-under-the-same-directory ability of the implicit file name to >> justify supporting it. I could be wrong. Am I? > > Just as a data point, I don't have desire to organize a library > under a single directory. I don't mind the library tarball > expands into acme/foo.sls, acme/foo/helper1.sls, acme/foo/helper2.sls... > +1. I do my library collection layouts like this, and don't feel a need for the implicit rule, and would rather have it dropped -- IMO, while it may be a minor convinience when dealing with library collections, it also affects negatively the complexity of the proposed SRFI and its implementations; in a way you could argue that it's not a convinience, but a burden, as there's an additional rule to keep in mind when dealing with library collections. >> Being able to organize all libraries with a shared name prefix under the >> same directory seems desirable so that, when managing the related >> libraries, the directory is the single thing for them, instead of having >> to remember there's also the file outside the directory and also deal >> with it. E.g., a collection with (acme) library is distributed in a >> tar/zip with files all under the "acme" directory, and when you want to >> move/delete it you only need to remember and deal with the directory. > > That sounds plausible, but most of the time I go for some kind of > install process, for libraries may need some sort of setup depending > on the environment. Some libraries needs to install other components > anyway (e.g. auxiliary helper command). Then it is safer to rely on > 'uninstall' make target. > > Simple libraries may not need that, but it is a burden to remember > which ones need to be explicitly uninstalled and which ones are just > ok to remove single directory. Since not all libraries are that > simple, each library needs to provide uninstall instruction anyways; I > won't rely on my memory and just remove one directory. > > (I'm not proposing sophisiticated package managing utility; good old > make does the job.) > FWIW, I'm working on a package management tool for R6RS library collections, which should eventually handle installation, deinstallation and dependencies between library collections. It will also give the library collection maintainer some leeway in how they organize the directory tree inside the package. Regards, Rotty -- Andreas Rottmann -- <http://rotty.yi.org/>