Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (28 Aug 2020 11:49 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault (28 Aug 2020 18:06 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (28 Aug 2020 19:22 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) John Cowan (29 Aug 2020 00:46 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (29 Aug 2020 08:14 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (26 Oct 2020 17:50 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) John Cowan (26 Oct 2020 20:04 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (26 Oct 2020 20:33 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault (26 Oct 2020 21:17 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (26 Oct 2020 21:30 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault (26 Oct 2020 22:42 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault (26 Oct 2020 22:49 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) John Cowan (27 Oct 2020 00:05 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault (27 Oct 2020 00:35 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) John Cowan (27 Oct 2020 01:59 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault (27 Oct 2020 02:18 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (27 Oct 2020 19:38 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (27 Oct 2020 19:46 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (28 Oct 2020 06:31 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault (28 Oct 2020 21:30 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) John Cowan (29 Oct 2020 00:17 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (29 Oct 2020 16:42 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (27 Oct 2020 17:20 UTC)
Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault (27 Oct 2020 18:42 UTC)

Re: Extensibility (and the lack thereof) Felix Thibault 26 Oct 2020 21:17 UTC

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 4:04 PM John Cowan <xxxxxx@ccil.org> wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:50 PM Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe <xxxxxx@sigwinch.xyz> wrote:
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>> I'd second this emphatically.  Few ideas suffer more from a restricted
>> view of Scheme types than pattern-matching.  Any number of extensions
>> seem plausible (what if we want our matcher to match ilists, boxes,
>> mappings, or some other type yet to be invented?), but, as noted
>> above, such extensions may break compatibility.
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> I think the Right Thing here is to resurrect Haskell's idea of views (which are also present in Pure, by the way). Basically a view is a function that transforms an object of some opaque type (defined by a predicate, for Scheme purposes) into an object with a transparent type (most likely a list) that we know how to match on.  Then we just have to teach the matcher about (-> view-proc pattern), which applies view-proc to the object to be matched and matches the result against the pattern.
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> See <https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/wikis/view-patterns> for details, some of which are unobvious (at least to me).  There are a LOT of other ideas at the bottom of that page, with links, but I think this one hits the sweet spot.  Support belongs in another SRFI, but I believe it is a reasonable extension.  I'd like to reserve patterns beginning with -> and => (these are valid in R6RS, so no problem there) in this SRFI, though.
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Is reserving them a matter of adding them to the SRFI as reserved and
putting them in the macros as not-implemented-error?

Felix

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