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any? and find Shiro Kawai (27 May 2021 03:23 UTC)
Re: any? and find Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe (27 May 2021 18:35 UTC)

Re: any? and find Wolfgang Corcoran-Mathe 27 May 2021 18:35 UTC

Shiro,

Thanks very much for your feedback, and for the lists of
`find'-procedure prior art.

On 2021-05-26 17:23 -1000, Shiro Kawai wrote:
> Finding an item satisfying a given predicate is an operation that can be
> found in most collection types.   Traditionally, we have some flavors:
>
> 1. Returns an item that satisfies the predicate  (srfi-1 find)
> 2. Returns the first true value the predicate returns (srfi-1 any, srfi-125
> hash-table-find)
> 3. Returns true if any item satisfies the predicate (imapping-any?,
> srfi-113 set-any?)
>
> And we may now also be able to have it combined with Maybe.
> 1M. Predicate is item -> generalized boolean.  Returns Just item if
> predicate returns true on any item, or Nothing.
> 2M. Predicate is item -> Maybe.  Returns Just if any of the result is Just,
> or Nothing.

I agree that SRFI 224 should provide ways to handle all of these
cases.  At the moment, I'm thinking that covering 1 and 2M is
sufficient; case 2 is obtained from 1 through simple composition, and
cases 3 and 2M are just 1 and 1M, respectively, without witnesses.

I'm thinking of adding procedures

    (imapping-find pred imap failure) -> [exact-integer, *] or ...

    (imapping-query pred imap) -> maybe[exact-integer, *]

where `imapping-find' is analogous to SRFI 146's `mapping-find' and
where (imapping-query pred imap) returns Just k v if (k, v) is the
least association of <imap> satisfying <pred>, and Nothing otherwise.
Case 2, as mentioned above, can be obtained by simply processing the
values/Maybe returned by the above functions.

(Why do we differentiate case 2, then?  I'd suggest that
hash-table-find from SRFI 125 returns the result of applying its
<proc> argument mainly as a way to deal with multiple values; the
value-or-#f protocol isn't appropriate in that context.)

A further question: why not make `any' witness-generating?  A common
Scheme convention is that procedures which can return a useful truthy
value do so.  Boolean-only `any?' forms (e.g. those from SRFI 113)
make sense to me when any witness value would be in some sense
arbitrary; it's not clear that such a value would be more useful than
#t.  Since the elements of integer mappings have an ordering, however,
it might be useful for imapping-any to return the least-keyed
association, rather than just #t.  (Dual remarks apply to `every'.)

Would the forms proposed above be acceptable, and provide sufficient
coverage?

Apologies if these thoughts seem disjointed.  Best regards,

--
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