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binary vs non-binary ports
Per Bothner
(16 Sep 2004 04:51 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Alex Shinn
(16 Sep 2004 05:34 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Per Bothner
(16 Sep 2004 06:54 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Alex Shinn
(16 Sep 2004 07:26 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports Shiro Kawai (16 Sep 2004 08:30 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Alex Shinn
(17 Sep 2004 03:43 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Alex Shinn
(17 Sep 2004 05:32 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Per Bothner
(17 Sep 2004 17:22 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Shiro Kawai
(17 Sep 2004 20:44 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema
(17 Sep 2004 21:26 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Alex Shinn
(18 Sep 2004 02:15 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Per Bothner
(18 Sep 2004 16:31 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Bradd W. Szonye
(18 Sep 2004 17:43 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Per Bothner
(18 Sep 2004 19:51 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema
(18 Sep 2004 18:04 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Bradd W. Szonye
(18 Sep 2004 19:21 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Alex Shinn
(20 Sep 2004 02:06 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Per Bothner
(20 Sep 2004 02:46 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Alex Shinn
(18 Sep 2004 02:21 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Per Bothner
(18 Sep 2004 20:04 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema
(17 Sep 2004 21:37 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema
(17 Sep 2004 22:40 UTC)
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Re: binary vs non-binary ports
Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema
(17 Sep 2004 22:48 UTC)
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>From: Per Bothner <xxxxxx@bothner.com>
Subject: binary vs non-binary ports
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:51:44 -0700
> From the draft:
> > Some Schemes may wish to distinguish between binary and non-binary
> > ports as in Common-Lisp. As these can be layered on top of the
> > current ports this may better be relegated to a separate SRFI.
>
> Huh? This is backwards. The current ports are character ports.
> As such they are layered on top of byte ports. I.e. non-binary
> ports are layered on top of binary ports.
Certainly there are implementations that inherently needs to
distinguish character and binary ports, so I see Per's point.
I can think of two resolutions.
(1) changing the phrase in the draft to mention that:
- Some implementations inherently need to distinguish character
and binary ports.
- If the port doesn't support the requested operation, an exception
is raised (already mentioned in the draft).
- The API to distinguish character/binary ports is beyond this srfi
(2) including primitive predicates, something like port-binary-io-capable?,
into this srfi, so that a portable program can be written.
> It makes no sense to mix character and binary I/O on the same port.
> Anyone who tries it is in a state of sin.
I know one instance that I need to mix both.
There are Scheme source code around that their comments are
written in non us-ascii charsets, although their code part
is in us-ascii. While dealing with such sources, it is very
annoying that the input port throws an "invalid multibyte
sequence" exception when the reader is consuming the comment
string. Using binary I/O in skipping comment avoids this
situation. It is not nice, but such robustness is mandatory
if you're in a community that exchanges source code with
comments in various encodings...
--shiro