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NaN's Paul Schlie (29 Oct 2005 15:50 UTC)
Re: NaN's Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk (29 Oct 2005 16:39 UTC)
Re: NaN's Paul Schlie (29 Oct 2005 18:22 UTC)
Re: NaN's Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk (29 Oct 2005 19:14 UTC)
Re: NaN's Paul Schlie (29 Oct 2005 22:49 UTC)
Error objects in general bear (29 Oct 2005 19:46 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk (29 Oct 2005 20:22 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general bear (30 Oct 2005 05:57 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk (30 Oct 2005 14:17 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Alan Watson (29 Oct 2005 21:26 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general bear (30 Oct 2005 05:40 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Taylor Campbell (30 Oct 2005 05:45 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general bear (30 Oct 2005 06:08 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Taylor Campbell (30 Oct 2005 16:49 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Alan Watson (30 Oct 2005 05:54 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general bear (30 Oct 2005 06:07 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Alan Watson (30 Oct 2005 06:46 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Paul Schlie (30 Oct 2005 12:39 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Paul Schlie (30 Oct 2005 13:04 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general John.Cowan (30 Oct 2005 16:30 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Alan Watson (30 Oct 2005 20:29 UTC)
Re: Error objects in general Alan Watson (30 Oct 2005 13:17 UTC)

Re: Error objects in general Paul Schlie 30 Oct 2005 12:39 UTC

> From: Alan Watson <xxxxxx@astrosmo.unam.mx>
> bear wrote:
>> It's different because #f is a useful value, not a signal that some
>> operation failed or was invalid.
>
> #f is often used to signal failure. For examples, look no further than
> string->number and assoc.

- Should there be an observable difference between assoc failing to find
  a match given operands with well defined values, vs. given operands having
  un-specified values?

- Should a comparison operation (= 0 X) return #t #f or something else
  if the value of X is an unspecified NaN value? [as such a value may or may
  not be 0]?

- what should (list-ref x y) return if y had an un-specified value?

- or more generally, what value should (car #t) or (if #f #f) return?

(Under the premise that calculations should not generally halt execution
 upon determining an expression's value is un-specified, but rather proceed
 returning an object having an unspecified value?)

>> In general, operations that are
>> supposed to retrieve a value can fail, and then what value do they
>> return?
>
> Yup, you've identified one of the oldest problems in interface design.
>
> Alan
> --
> Dr Alan Watson
> Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica
> Universidad Astronómico Nacional de México
>