My comments
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(19 Oct 2005 18:37 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 19:17 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(19 Oct 2005 19:44 UTC)
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Re: My comments Bradd W. Szonye (19 Oct 2005 19:55 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(19 Oct 2005 20:11 UTC)
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Re: My comments
John.Cowan
(19 Oct 2005 20:10 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(19 Oct 2005 20:13 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 20:25 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(19 Oct 2005 20:23 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 20:36 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(19 Oct 2005 21:36 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 21:42 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 22:08 UTC)
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Exactness (was Re: My comments)
bear
(20 Oct 2005 01:50 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(20 Oct 2005 03:45 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(20 Oct 2005 09:13 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Bradd W. Szonye
(20 Oct 2005 20:15 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
bear
(20 Oct 2005 22:09 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 02:08 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 03:05 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 08:15 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 18:38 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 20:12 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 20:29 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 20:38 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 20:44 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 21:20 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 21:44 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 22:18 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 22:48 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(22 Oct 2005 00:34 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(22 Oct 2005 01:02 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Per Bothner
(22 Oct 2005 00:59 UTC)
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Bradd W. Szonye wrote: >> While they seem silly for small integers, inexact integers make sense >> for huge values. For example, people often round huge integers to the >> nearest million or billion. An even better example: Avogadro's number >> is an integer, but it should not be represented as an exact integer, >> because its exact value is unknown. Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > What makes you think Avogadro's number is an integer? Because there's no such thing as half an atom of carbon. Furthermore, as you mentioned yourself, the error in measuring the canonical gram is much larger than the mass of an atom, so why /wouldn't/ it be an integer? Indeed, if we were to switch the gram from a sample to a more fundamental definition, I would expect something like "1/12 the mass of one mole of carbon-12," with the mole fixed at an integral number of atoms. > Oh, and that assertion I made that there are an integral number of > atoms in a sample at a moment in time: not really true. After all, > the atoms are evaporating and condensing on to and off of the surface > of the sample all the time at an exceedingly high rate .... While it's true that it's (practically and theoretically) impossible to count the number of atoms in a sample, that doesn't make the number non-integral. It simply makes it inexact. -- Bradd W. Szonye http://www.szonye.com/bradd