My comments
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(19 Oct 2005 18:37 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 19:17 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(19 Oct 2005 19:44 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 19:55 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(19 Oct 2005 20:11 UTC)
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Re: My comments
John.Cowan
(19 Oct 2005 20:10 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(19 Oct 2005 20:13 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 20:25 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(19 Oct 2005 20:23 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 20:36 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(19 Oct 2005 21:36 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 21:42 UTC)
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Re: My comments
Bradd W. Szonye
(19 Oct 2005 22:08 UTC)
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Exactness (was Re: My comments)
bear
(20 Oct 2005 01:50 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(20 Oct 2005 03:45 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(20 Oct 2005 09:13 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Bradd W. Szonye
(20 Oct 2005 20:15 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
bear
(20 Oct 2005 22:09 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 02:08 UTC)
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Re: Exactness Thomas Bushnell BSG (21 Oct 2005 03:05 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 08:15 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 18:38 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 20:12 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 20:29 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 20:38 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 20:44 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 21:20 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 21:44 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(21 Oct 2005 22:18 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(21 Oct 2005 22:48 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
(22 Oct 2005 00:34 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Thomas Bushnell BSG
(22 Oct 2005 01:02 UTC)
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Re: Exactness
Per Bothner
(22 Oct 2005 00:59 UTC)
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Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk <xxxxxx@knm.org.pl> writes: > I know what to expect from IEEE floats. I know for example that > calculations in a certain range of integers are exact. Or that numbers > have the same relative precision but different absolute precision, for > a wide range of magnitudes. Or that certain primitive operations take > constant time, and a number uses a fixed amount of memory - it doesn't > keep growing precision. I should be able to know more in Scheme - for > example that by default a flonum overflow will not be fatal but will > yield +inf.0, which will compare as greater than any other number > except itself and +nan.0. > > I know what to expect from ratios. > > I don't know what to expect from inexact real numbers. Do they behave > like floats, or like ratios with inexactness bit? It does matter! So we need a way to query those questions. Scheme doesn't have "flonums" and that's a good and rational design choice. We don't want to bundle extra meaning in with "inexact real", and start making guarantees about them which have nothing to do with real or exact, but are simply artifacts of traditional implementations. But what you want is still sensible, of course. It's not a property of a value that it has a fixed size (after all *all* values, all bignums have a fixed size). That's a property of *operations*, as your language suggests. So if you want an implementation of + that is guaranteed not to use more memory in the result than in the operands, we can have that. No problem. Such a function should also have optional arguments that specify what happens if the result doesn't fit in the space needed. Thomas