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Draft of Red Edition report Vincent Manis (18 Mar 2020 04:37 UTC)
Re: Draft of Red Edition report Arthur A. Gleckler (18 Mar 2020 17:46 UTC)
Re: Draft of Red Edition report John Cowan (18 Mar 2020 20:19 UTC)
Re: Draft of Red Edition report Vincent Manis (19 Mar 2020 02:37 UTC)
Re: Draft of Red Edition report John Cowan (19 Mar 2020 19:19 UTC)
Re: Draft of Red Edition report Vincent Manis (20 Mar 2020 02:19 UTC)
Re: Draft of Red Edition report Lassi Kortela (20 Mar 2020 09:20 UTC)

Re: Draft of Red Edition report Lassi Kortela 20 Mar 2020 09:20 UTC

Thank you for all the effort! The result is very useful and looks great.

> Yes, that's my problem with “object”. Unfortunately, it has a lot of
> meanings in the Lisp world and elsewhere (remember Alan Kay's comment on
> whether C++ is object-oriented).

The word "value" is similarly a bit problematic since it generally
carries a connotation of immutability whereas many Scheme values are
mutable. We probably can't win.

In Lisp circles there would seem to be a cultural understanding that
objects do not necessarily imply classes and methods, though the
overloaded meaning can confuse people coming from newer languages.