define-library-alias
Lassi Kortela
(26 May 2020 13:34 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Shiro Kawai
(27 May 2020 00:08 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Alex Shinn
(27 May 2020 00:35 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Shiro Kawai
(27 May 2020 01:30 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Alex Shinn
(27 May 2020 03:26 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Shiro Kawai
(27 May 2020 04:09 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 07:27 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 07:53 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 07:57 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 08:05 UTC)
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SCHEME_PATH and library lookup metadata files
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 08:15 UTC)
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Re: SCHEME_PATH and library lookup metadata files
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 08:24 UTC)
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Re: SCHEME_PATH and library lookup metadata files
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 09:04 UTC)
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Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 09:14 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 09:21 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 09:51 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 10:21 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Per Bothner
(27 May 2020 14:42 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
John Cowan
(27 May 2020 17:46 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 20:16 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Lassi Kortela
(29 May 2020 16:03 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(29 May 2020 17:03 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Lassi Kortela
(29 May 2020 17:09 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(29 May 2020 17:52 UTC)
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Data vs metadata distinction
Lassi Kortela
(29 May 2020 17:59 UTC)
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Re: Data vs metadata distinction
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(02 Jun 2020 09:43 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
John Cowan
(29 May 2020 17:15 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Lassi Kortela
(29 May 2020 17:26 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
Lassi Kortela
(29 May 2020 17:41 UTC)
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Re: Reader flags to indicate different kinds of files
John Cowan
(29 May 2020 18:04 UTC)
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Re: SCHEME_PATH and library lookup metadata files
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 09:26 UTC)
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Scheme filename extensions
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 09:40 UTC)
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Re: Scheme filename extensions
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 09:49 UTC)
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Re: Scheme filename extensions
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(27 May 2020 09:51 UTC)
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Re: Scheme filename extensions
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 10:21 UTC)
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Re: Scheme filename extensions
Alex Shinn
(27 May 2020 09:55 UTC)
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Re: Scheme filename extensions
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 10:30 UTC)
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Library lookup metadata file
Lassi Kortela
(27 May 2020 10:32 UTC)
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Re: Scheme filename extensions
John Cowan
(28 May 2020 17:30 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Alex Shinn
(04 Jun 2020 14:57 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(04 Jun 2020 15:31 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Feeley
(04 Jun 2020 15:37 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Lassi Kortela
(04 Jun 2020 15:39 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(21 Sep 2020 06:13 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Lassi Kortela
(22 Sep 2020 16:05 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(22 Sep 2020 16:13 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Lassi Kortela
(22 Sep 2020 16:41 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(22 Sep 2020 17:13 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Jim Rees
(23 Sep 2020 02:07 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Jim Rees
(23 Sep 2020 02:08 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(23 Sep 2020 06:02 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Jim Rees
(23 Sep 2020 12:52 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(23 Sep 2020 12:58 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
John Cowan
(23 Sep 2020 21:45 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(24 Sep 2020 05:53 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
John Cowan
(25 Sep 2020 21:27 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (26 Sep 2020 07:44 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Jim Rees
(26 Sep 2020 21:11 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(26 Sep 2020 21:23 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Jim Rees
(27 Sep 2020 01:44 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
John Cowan
(27 Sep 2020 17:49 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Arthur A. Gleckler
(27 Sep 2020 18:16 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(29 Sep 2020 16:13 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(30 Sep 2020 07:08 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(29 Sep 2020 16:00 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Jim Rees
(26 Sep 2020 01:05 UTC)
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Re: define-library-alias
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(26 Sep 2020 07:49 UTC)
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Am Fr., 25. Sept. 2020 um 23:27 Uhr schrieb John Cowan <xxxxxx@ccil.org>: >> What I have >> been discussing with Jim lately is the following: If a library exports >> an identifier `foo', one can access all (not renamed) identifiers that >> are defined at the top-level of the library, namely through >> (datum->syntax #'foo top-level-identifier-name) or a similar >> construction for the given macro system that allows unhygienic >> bindings. Therefore, not only the set exported identifiers but also >> the top-level environment of a library is an observable quantity. > > > I tried this in Guile with an R6RS library that defines trivial procedures foo and bar and exports foo. Evaluating (datum->syntax #'foo 'bar) gives me #<syntax bar>, but I do not see how to invoke the procedure bound to bar. Furthermore, if I try it with baz instead of bar, I get #<syntax baz>, pretty much indistinguishable. So it is not leaking even the names of top-level bindings, never mind their values. The same is true in Chez. There are two issues here. The first is that you don't want the bar and baz syntax objects at run-time but at expand-time, so you have to change the phase level using define-syntax, i.e. you have to produce the syntax objects in a macro transformer, which is then fed into the expander. The bigger issue is that I wrote my earlier paragraph without thinking enough. The "forging" (datum->syntax #'foo top-level-identifier-name) only works when foo has the correct syntactic environment. However, the imported identifier foo has the syntactic environment of the top-level environment of the importing library/program. So you have to move the syntax definition for forging into the library with the top-level-identifier: $ cat test.sld (define-library (test) (export get public) (import (scheme base) (srfi 211 syntax-case)) (begin (define (public) 'public) (define (private) 'private) (define-syntax get (lambda (stx) (syntax-case stx () ((_ id) (datum->syntax #'public (syntax->datum #'id)))))))) $ unsyntax-scheme -I . Unsyntax 0.0.2.5-601a-dirty Copyright (C) 2020 Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. #,> (import (test)) #,> (public) public #,> (private) error: non procedure application: (#<undef>) #,> (get private) #<procedure private.17462> #,> ((get private)) private This doesn't change my original point, though: As it is generally undecidable whether a top-level library exports a syntax like `get`, a library defines not only its exports but also its top-level bindings. #,> (define x 1) #,> (import (srfi 211 syntax-case)) #,> (free-identifier=? #'x (datum->syntax #'public 'x)) This last example shows that the syntactic environment of the *imported* identifier public is the one of the importing library/module. Marc