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A reference type Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (18 Aug 2022 21:45 UTC)
Re: A reference type John Cowan (19 Aug 2022 01:36 UTC)
Re: A reference type Lassi Kortela (19 Aug 2022 10:03 UTC)
Re: A reference type Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 10:11 UTC)
Re: A reference type Lassi Kortela (19 Aug 2022 10:25 UTC)
Places in Scheme Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 10:42 UTC)
Re: Places in Scheme Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 11:36 UTC)
Re: Places in Scheme Per Bothner (19 Aug 2022 16:33 UTC)
Re: Places in Scheme Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 17:58 UTC)
Re: Places in Scheme Panicz Maciej Godek (25 Aug 2022 15:20 UTC)
Re: Places in Scheme Ray Dillinger (26 Aug 2022 02:29 UTC)
Re: A reference type Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 10:54 UTC)
Re: A reference type Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 11:44 UTC)
Re: A reference type Peter Bex (19 Aug 2022 12:02 UTC)
Re: A reference type Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 12:26 UTC)
Big words Lassi Kortela (19 Aug 2022 16:29 UTC)
Re: Big words Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 18:07 UTC)
Re: Big words Lassi Kortela (19 Aug 2022 20:06 UTC)
Re: Big words Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (19 Aug 2022 20:31 UTC)
Re: Big words blake@xxxxxx (19 Aug 2022 22:06 UTC)
Re: Big words blake@xxxxxx (19 Aug 2022 22:08 UTC)
Re: Big words Arthur A. Gleckler (19 Aug 2022 18:09 UTC)
Re: Big words John Cowan (19 Aug 2022 18:39 UTC)

Re: A reference type Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 19 Aug 2022 10:11 UTC

Am Fr., 19. Aug. 2022 um 12:03 Uhr schrieb Lassi Kortela <xxxxxx@lassi.io>:
>
> > Lisp has a standard term for these things of which you speak: locatives.
> > Zetalisp, the pre-CL of the Lisp Machine, had low-level locatives
> > documented at <https://hanshuebner.github.io/lmman/fd-loc.xml
> > <https://hanshuebner.github.io/lmman/fd-loc.xml>>. Locatives were
> > removed from CL because they were considered not portable enough, but
> > there is a portable package cl-locatives at
> > <https://quickref.common-lisp.net/cl-locatives.html
> > <https://quickref.common-lisp.net/cl-locatives.html>>.
>
> Common Lisp also has "places" which are used for generalized reference
> http://clhs.lisp.se/Body/26_glo_p.htm#place. Scheme's SRFI 17
> (Generalized set!) is a copy of this.
>
> However, places (like RnRS locations) are not a first-class type. They
> are implied by the existence of suitable getters and setters.
>
> See CLHS 5.1 Generalized Reference (http://clhs.lisp.se/Body/05_a.htm)
>
> And especially 5.1.2 Kinds of Places (http://clhs.lisp.se/Body/05_a.htm)

See the message at
https://srfi-email.schemers.org/srfi-17/msg/2778561/ and the following
discussion for why there are good arguments against a SRFI-17-style
addition to Scheme.  I definitely subscribe to these arguments. Per,
the author of SRFI 17, does not. But we already had such a discussion
and continuing it should happen somewhere else.