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3 databases in 3 days hga@xxxxxx (30 Sep 2019 00:36 UTC)
Support for Scheme standards and implementations Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 08:11 UTC)
Re: Support for Scheme standards and implementations hga@xxxxxx (30 Sep 2019 11:25 UTC)
Scheme implementations and portability Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 13:14 UTC)
Re: Scheme implementations and portability John Cowan (30 Sep 2019 19:27 UTC)
Scheme implementations, portability, FFIs Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 21:16 UTC)
Re: Scheme implementations, portability, FFIs John Cowan (30 Sep 2019 22:10 UTC)
JDBC Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 13:15 UTC)
Re: JDBC hga@xxxxxx (30 Sep 2019 13:24 UTC)
Re: JDBC and subprocess protocol Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 14:29 UTC)
Re: JDBC and subprocess protocol hga@xxxxxx (30 Sep 2019 15:16 UTC)
Re: JDBC and subprocess protocol Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 15:47 UTC)
Re: JDBC and subprocess protocol Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 15:55 UTC)
Re: JDBC John Cowan (30 Sep 2019 15:10 UTC)
Re: JDBC Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 15:26 UTC)
Re: JDBC Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 15:34 UTC)
sdbi design in detail and MariaDB CONNECT hga@xxxxxx (30 Sep 2019 16:14 UTC)
Re: sdbi design in detail and MariaDB CONNECT Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 16:28 UTC)
Re: sdbi design in detail and MariaDB CONNECT John Cowan (30 Sep 2019 20:25 UTC)
Re: JDBC John Cowan (30 Sep 2019 16:44 UTC)
Re: JDBC Lassi Kortela (30 Sep 2019 20:52 UTC)
Re: JDBC Alaric Snell-Pym (01 Oct 2019 09:26 UTC)
Re: JDBC hga@xxxxxx (01 Oct 2019 09:55 UTC)
Re: JDBC Alaric Snell-Pym (01 Oct 2019 11:09 UTC)

sdbi design in detail and MariaDB CONNECT hga@xxxxxx 30 Sep 2019 16:14 UTC

> From: Lassi Kortela <xxxxxx@lassi.io>
> Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 10:34 AM

>> To some extent this whole discussion is moot :) [ CONNECT ] is
>> supported by some MariaDB client we'll end up making anyway. A JDBC
>> suprocess is a matter of coding one, so it's the problem of whoever
>> will code it :)
>
> This sounds superficially like we're arguing, but the bigger picture
> here is that we have a very sound design for the DB framework.

Thanks, but it's not quite to that point, there's still a lot of Sidney
Harris "THEN A MIRACLE OCCURS" steps to be more explicit about ^_^.
That said, my design intuition is pretty good by now.

> It permits either implementation strategy easily, and we're just
> arguing about whether to plug in some databases one way or another way
> or do both. Exploration and individual motivation will automatically
> find approach(es) that work; the point is to make sure the framework
> itself can handle socket, in-process and subprocess implementations so
> all avenues are open whenever someone wants to add a database.

This is a very good point.  To use the current (iffy) hierarchy of sdbi
for this, I have, for example, running in bare direct prototype form:

(sdbi connector ffi sqlite3)

And:

(sdbi connector net postgresql)

To which Lassi is proposing to add something like:

(sdbi connector subprocess-jdbc)

Which would be used as:

(sdbi connector subprocess-jdbc [obscure database])

Perforce, there will be a generic protocol between the connector layer
and the one below it, although in John's favor I need to look at the
PostgrSQL and Widenius wire protocols for ideas.  The latter ... however
much it'll gain us with CONNECT, as far as I know it needs a champion to
be implemented any time soon.

As for CONNECT (https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/connect/), does it
represent a single point of project institutional failure like I
perceived SQLite3 to be?

I again ask this to determine how much sdbi should be influenced by
a potential mayfly.  In the meanwhile I'm mining it for ideas.

- Harold