Advanced file port operations: please review.
John Cowan
(01 Nov 2019 23:01 UTC)
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Re: Advanced file port operations: please review.
hga@xxxxxx
(02 Nov 2019 00:14 UTC)
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Re: Advanced file port operations: please review.
John Cowan
(02 Nov 2019 02:19 UTC)
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Re: Advanced file port operations: please review.
hga@xxxxxx
(02 Nov 2019 15:43 UTC)
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Re: Advanced file port operations: please review.
John Cowan
(02 Nov 2019 18:15 UTC)
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SRFI 177 as a dependency for keywords in other places
Lassi Kortela
(02 Nov 2019 23:00 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 177 as a dependency for keywords in other places
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(03 Nov 2019 08:33 UTC)
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Keyword arguments in R7RS-large and SRFIs
Lassi Kortela
(03 Nov 2019 09:16 UTC)
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Re: Keyword arguments in R7RS-large and SRFIs
Amirouche Boubekki
(03 Nov 2019 14:28 UTC)
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Re: Keyword arguments in R7RS-large and SRFIs
Lassi Kortela
(03 Nov 2019 15:53 UTC)
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Re: Keyword arguments in R7RS-large and SRFIs
John Cowan
(03 Nov 2019 19:30 UTC)
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How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
Amirouche Boubekki
(03 Nov 2019 20:11 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
Amirouche Boubekki
(03 Nov 2019 20:14 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful? Lassi Kortela (03 Nov 2019 20:26 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
Lassi Kortela
(03 Nov 2019 20:30 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
John Cowan
(03 Nov 2019 22:08 UTC)
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R7RS-large keyowrds
Lassi Kortela
(03 Nov 2019 22:18 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
John Cowan
(03 Nov 2019 22:29 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Lassi Kortela
(03 Nov 2019 22:34 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(06 Nov 2019 10:49 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
John Cowan
(06 Nov 2019 17:49 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(06 Nov 2019 18:08 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
John Cowan
(06 Nov 2019 18:10 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Marc Feeley
(06 Nov 2019 18:16 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(06 Nov 2019 18:17 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
John Cowan
(06 Nov 2019 20:23 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(06 Nov 2019 18:16 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Marc Feeley
(06 Nov 2019 17:59 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Lassi Kortela
(09 Nov 2019 12:29 UTC)
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Re: R7RS-large keyowrds
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(09 Nov 2019 12:53 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
Amirouche Boubekki
(04 Nov 2019 03:31 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
Amirouche Boubekki
(04 Nov 2019 04:10 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
John Cowan
(03 Nov 2019 23:52 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
Amirouche Boubekki
(04 Nov 2019 03:43 UTC)
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Re: How and Why keyword arguments are useful or harmful?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(06 Nov 2019 13:25 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 177 as a dependency for keywords in other places
John Cowan
(03 Nov 2019 21:32 UTC)
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When is a feature necessary
Lassi Kortela
(03 Nov 2019 22:06 UTC)
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Re: When is a feature necessary
Lassi Kortela
(03 Nov 2019 22:13 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 177 as a dependency for keywords in other places
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(06 Nov 2019 10:21 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 177 as a dependency for keywords in other places
John Cowan
(09 Nov 2019 03:30 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 177 as a dependency for keywords in other places
Lassi Kortela
(09 Nov 2019 11:55 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 177 as a dependency for keywords in other places
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(09 Nov 2019 13:40 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 177 as a dependency for keywords in other places
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(09 Nov 2019 13:13 UTC)
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Re: Advanced file port operations: please review.
Shiro Kawai
(02 Nov 2019 10:15 UTC)
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Re: Advanced file port operations: please review.
John Cowan
(02 Nov 2019 14:36 UTC)
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Port settings
Lassi Kortela
(02 Nov 2019 10:28 UTC)
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Re: Port settings
John Cowan
(02 Nov 2019 14:00 UTC)
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Re: Port settings
Lassi Kortela
(02 Nov 2019 14:13 UTC)
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Thanks for your thoughts. > So far, I have not seen arguments that convince me that keyword > arguments are a good thing. It seems a lot like "everybody does it, > let's do it too". I have not seen a (good?) argument for it as of yet. I don't see it as argument from popularity; many of us have extensive first-hand experience using keyword arguments (as well as their alternatives: records, alists/plists and optional positional args). > I argue that if there is more > that 5 arguments (because humans can only remember 5 things at the > same time (which used to be 7)) the function must be split. It's true that a long arglist is often a sign that one should make a state object or a little DSL instead of one procedure. But the DSL thing can also be overdone. > One could move failure success and make-state to config. That would be > keywords in disguise... Because I am in favor of let-keywords which is > less demanding on the user than call/kw and lambda/kw. Doesn't let-keywords do the same thing as lambda/kw, but less integrated into the language with no opportunity for the implementation to static-check and optimize it? I.e. you have to have a rest argument, and then manually give that rest argument to let-keywords. IMHO it's just more verbose, offers less opportunity for conventions to develop, and has more room for error. > call/kw and lambda/kw is a new calling convention. This must not be > implemented without a lot of thinking. Now any time the user wants to > call a procedure they must think whether it takes or not keywords. It's not necessary to think about that. An ordinary lambda can be replaced with lambda/kw when the time comes to add keyword arguments. If you used optional positional arguments or an alist/plist rest argument, you would still have to change the lambda-list, so it's not more work. > Maybe another reason, I am not sure about keywords, is because they > have the same "documentation" argument that static typed language use > for static typing. I haven't heard anybody (outside of the Smalltalk language) advocating that all arguments be named. Only optional arguments for procedures that take many of them.