SRFI 197: Threading Macros Arthur A. Gleckler (09 Jun 2020 03:41 UTC)
First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 06:48 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (09 Jun 2020 07:27 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 08:30 UTC)
Re: First comments Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 13:25 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 14:06 UTC)
Re: First comments Lassi Kortela (09 Jun 2020 14:12 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 15:28 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 16:05 UTC)
Re: First comments Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 16:15 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 16:22 UTC)
Re: First comments Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 17:03 UTC)
Re: First comments Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:16 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:22 UTC)
Re: First comments Lassi Kortela (09 Jun 2020 17:31 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:40 UTC)
Re: First comments Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 22:19 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 06:16 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (10 Jun 2020 07:17 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 07:38 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (10 Jun 2020 08:21 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 08:42 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (15 Jun 2020 19:50 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (15 Jun 2020 20:09 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (16 Jun 2020 11:39 UTC)
Re: First comments Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 07:53 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 08:04 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:44 UTC)
Re: First comments Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:46 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:49 UTC)
Re: First comments Arvydas Silanskas (09 Jun 2020 07:40 UTC)
Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 13:40 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 13:48 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 14:09 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros hga@xxxxxx (09 Jun 2020 14:16 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Lassi Kortela (09 Jun 2020 14:42 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 14:48 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros hga@xxxxxx (09 Jun 2020 15:10 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 15:25 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 15:47 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 15:58 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 16:21 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 16:46 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:13 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:35 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros John Cowan (11 Jun 2020 00:59 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros hga@xxxxxx (09 Jun 2020 16:58 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Lassi Kortela (09 Jun 2020 17:00 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 17:00 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 15:17 UTC)
Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 17:18 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:24 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:48 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:55 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 19:11 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 22:08 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 06:11 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 08:03 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 08:10 UTC)
Association list utilities Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 08:24 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 08:30 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 08:49 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 09:29 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 09:59 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 10:09 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 10:37 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 10:33 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 09:16 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 09:19 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 09:29 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 09:42 UTC)
More on association lists (and other key-value collections) Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 10:16 UTC)
Re: More on association lists (and other key-value collections) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 10:42 UTC)
Re: More on association lists (and other key-value collections) Arne Babenhauserheide (11 Jun 2020 00:41 UTC)
Re: More on association lists (and other key-value collections) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (11 Jun 2020 10:07 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 10:28 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 10:32 UTC)

Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2020 19:11 UTC

Am Di., 9. Juni 2020 um 19:55 Uhr schrieb Adam Nelson <xxxxxx@nels.onl>:

> (cond ((assoc 'foo '((foo . bar))) => (lambda (x) (symbol->string (cdr
> x)))) (else #f))
>
> (Not that your examples are all missing a `cdr', I think.)
>
> As we can see, R7RS-small already provides all we need. :) And it's
> even quite idiomatic.
>
> It's also 1.5x as long as the other examples and contains extra structure (`lambda`, `else`) that makes it harder to tell what it's doing at a glance, reinforcing the point that the purpose of threading macros is brevity. Or, in this case, preventing you from needing to write a utility function if you do this several times in a program.

Without the `cdr', you can drop the lambda and several characters ;)

Sure, with more procedures it becomes a bit longer.

> Using the `chain` syntax, and separating more parts of this expression out into the pipeline, it can be made much clearer:
>
> (and-chain '((foo . bar)) (assoc 'foo) (cdr) (symbol->string))

Actually, I don't think that `cond' is less clear because everyone
knows `cond', while I would have to look up what `and-chain' does. And
`and-chain', at least in this form, will need helper procedures as
well or the cut syntax as soon as the arguments do not come in the
right order.

That said, I wouldn't choose cond in this example (mainly because of
the meaningless `else #f', which you have already rightfully
complained about). :) I just wanted to make the point, that in the
example Arne has given, we are only talking about minor improvements.

Personally, I would choose `and-let*', which works in all cases
(regardless of the position of the arguments).