SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
hga@xxxxxx
(30 Aug 2020 12:37 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 14:01 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
hga@xxxxxx
(30 Aug 2020 14:25 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 14:52 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
hga@xxxxxx
(30 Aug 2020 15:45 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 16:06 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
John Cowan
(30 Aug 2020 14:55 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 15:22 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
John Cowan
(30 Aug 2020 16:05 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 16:39 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 16:56 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
hga@xxxxxx
(30 Aug 2020 20:13 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
hga@xxxxxx
(30 Aug 2020 15:23 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 15:35 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 15:44 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (30 Aug 2020 16:02 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 17:05 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
John Cowan
(30 Aug 2020 17:47 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
John Cowan
(30 Aug 2020 18:56 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 18:59 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(30 Aug 2020 19:45 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
hga@xxxxxx
(30 Aug 2020 17:34 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
John Cowan
(30 Aug 2020 17:55 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Arthur A. Gleckler
(30 Aug 2020 18:27 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 18:57 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Arthur A. Gleckler
(30 Aug 2020 19:10 UTC)
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Don't panic
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 19:28 UTC)
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Re: Don't panic
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(30 Aug 2020 19:34 UTC)
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Re: Don't panic
Arthur A. Gleckler
(30 Aug 2020 20:00 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
Lassi Kortela
(30 Aug 2020 19:57 UTC)
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Re: SRFI 198 and the Schemeregistry
John Cowan
(30 Aug 2020 20:09 UTC)
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I have only partially been able to follow your discussions and the development of SRFI 198, so what I am saying is as a bystander (and maybe a too uniformed one): Could it be that the problem you want to solve with SRFI 198 isn't yet clearly determined? Apparently, you want to define a new type of "error" object, the foreign status object. In the simplest version, this status object just has one payload with is just an association list (in the abstract sense). Let's take a step back. Apparently, you want to solve two things at least: (1) Having a distinct predicate for foreign status. (2) Having error objects that carry an extensible list of properties. I wonder whether it will help to abstract things a bit more. (1) can be solved independently of (2). Or, spoken differently, for other kinds of error objects (like file errors or read errors) it also makes sense to have such an extensible list of properties. SRFI 198 is not meant to be based on the condition system of the R6RS, but I think it helps a lot to ponder about how SRFI 198 would be implemented on that condition system (see https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/rnrs-conditions.html, for example. Or SRFI 35.). In this system, it makes sense that being a foreign status is implemented as a simple condition. And the association list could go its own condition type (as in &irritants). Raising a foreign status together with the association list would mean to raise a compound condition. This way, the association list condition could also be used for other types of conditions like I/O conditions. The question that has to be answered then is how certain keys will interact with other condition types. For example, it is conceivable to have a condition type &errno which should somehow be related to an errno key in a general association list. This is very much related to your latest discussion about organizing the foreign statuses in some kind of hierarchy. As I guess that you intend SRFI 198 to be naturally implementable on R6RS as well, I am sure it will be helpful to conceive an implementation on top of its condition that integrates naturally and that this will help to understand the actual SRFI 198 better. Marc