Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(29 Oct 2003 17:46 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(29 Oct 2003 19:13 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(29 Oct 2003 20:06 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(29 Oct 2003 20:47 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(29 Oct 2003 23:24 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Taylor Campbell
(30 Oct 2003 01:53 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 04:42 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(30 Oct 2003 16:52 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 17:11 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(30 Oct 2003 16:33 UTC)
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RE: Fundamental design flaws
Anton van Straaten
(30 Oct 2003 16:52 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 17:19 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 18:13 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws Bradd W. Szonye (30 Oct 2003 21:18 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 21:26 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 21:35 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 21:49 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 21:55 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 22:05 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 22:28 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 22:52 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Alex Shinn
(31 Oct 2003 03:04 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(31 Oct 2003 03:20 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Alex Shinn
(31 Oct 2003 07:13 UTC)
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RE: Fundamental design flaws
Anton van Straaten
(30 Oct 2003 23:07 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(31 Oct 2003 03:12 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 21:57 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(30 Oct 2003 20:23 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 20:35 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 17:06 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 17:26 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 18:15 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
bear
(30 Oct 2003 18:48 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 19:35 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
bear
(30 Oct 2003 19:45 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 20:08 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
bear
(30 Oct 2003 20:40 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 20:48 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(30 Oct 2003 20:49 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 21:02 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 21:26 UTC)
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Bradd wrote: >> If that's too difficult, then it's better to eliminate the >> isomorphism, which effectively means no dispatching on primitive >> types. And without them, SRFI-44 has no concrete collections at all. >> With no concrete collections and no defined method for dispatch, all >> that's left is vapor. xxxxxx@freenetproject.org wrote: > You're so dramatic Bradd. I'm not trying to be "dramatic." I'm trying to point out a fundamental design problem. SRFI-44 specifies isomorphic types but does not address the common problems that isomorphism can cause. Why do you consistently respond to major issues with either 1. Personal attacks ("You're so dramatic!"), or 2. Flat denial that the problems exist? Why are you even bothering with a review if you're unwilling to listen to the advice that you're nominally asking for? Why do you respond to criticism with personal abuse? > You can very well have concrete types in SRFI-44, its just that trying > to wedge the non-collection types from Scheme in that causes problems. You really don't get it, do you? Did you even understand a word of what I wrote? This response doesn't even tangentially address what I wrote. It's not "wedging the non-collection types from Scheme" that causes the problem. It's your *design* that causes the problem. You identify those types isomorphically, but you don't deal with the consequences. If you would spend more time trying to *design a good product* and less time coming up with new ways to insult your reviewers, you might actually be able to resolve the issues (by eliminating the isomorphism or finding a way to deal with it gracefully). -- Bradd W. Szonye http://www.szonye.com/bradd