Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(29 Oct 2003 17:46 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(29 Oct 2003 19:13 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(29 Oct 2003 20:06 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(29 Oct 2003 20:47 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(29 Oct 2003 23:24 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Taylor Campbell
(30 Oct 2003 01:53 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 04:42 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(30 Oct 2003 16:52 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 17:11 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(30 Oct 2003 16:33 UTC)
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RE: Fundamental design flaws
Anton van Straaten
(30 Oct 2003 16:52 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 17:19 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 18:13 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 21:18 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 21:26 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 21:35 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 21:49 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 21:55 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 22:05 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws Bradd W. Szonye (30 Oct 2003 22:28 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 22:52 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Alex Shinn
(31 Oct 2003 03:04 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(31 Oct 2003 03:20 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Alex Shinn
(31 Oct 2003 07:13 UTC)
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RE: Fundamental design flaws
Anton van Straaten
(30 Oct 2003 23:07 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(31 Oct 2003 03:12 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 21:57 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(30 Oct 2003 20:23 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 20:35 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 17:06 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 17:26 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 18:15 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
bear
(30 Oct 2003 18:48 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 19:35 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
bear
(30 Oct 2003 19:45 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 20:08 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
bear
(30 Oct 2003 20:40 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 20:48 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Tom Lord
(30 Oct 2003 20:49 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
scgmille@xxxxxx
(30 Oct 2003 21:02 UTC)
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Re: Fundamental design flaws
Bradd W. Szonye
(30 Oct 2003 21:26 UTC)
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> Bradd W. Szonye wrote: >> How do the generic procedures know whether '((a . 1) (b . 2)) is a >> list or an alist? If it's based on content, you have isomorphism >> issues to resolve. If you're now using something like a record type >> for alists, then you're not really handling primitive alists. xxxxxx@freenetproject.org wrote: > They never receive ((a . 1) (b . 2)). They receive an alist-dict, > which has structure beyond the stored values which it can dispatch on > (Taylor can comment more). We don't handle primitive alists. You make a big deal about how important it is to provide generic procedures for collections, but you don't support a very common collection type? Code that uses alists must choose between a complete port or no support? Actually, I suppose that a genuine alist would look like a "list" to SRFI-44. Could you please explain how this is consistent with your goals? While it may be a good idea not to support "primitive" Scheme collections, it doesn't seem compatible with your goals. > It was never the intention of the "Scheme Collections" section to make > the Scheme types work with collections. It was the intention to write > collections that used the underlying Scheme types to store values, to > show how they behave if they are collections. So are primitive lists and vectors supposed to be real collections, implemented by all SRFI-44 providers? If not, then why are they in the SRFI? If so, then how do you deal with lists and vectors that aren't *just* lists and vectors? Does SRFI-44 really treat a Scheme alist as if it were just a simple list? It'd be better to use distinct, non-primitive types for *all* of them, rather than fooling around with primitive ADTs inconsistently. If you do, however, be careful to rename "list" and "vector," like you renamed "alist." -- Bradd W. Szonye http://www.szonye.com/bradd