SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Aubrey Jaffer
(03 Jan 2005 05:23 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
bear
(03 Jan 2005 06:01 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Per Bothner
(03 Jan 2005 06:37 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Aubrey Jaffer
(03 Jan 2005 19:16 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Bradd W. Szonye
(04 Jan 2005 22:28 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Per Bothner
(04 Jan 2005 23:03 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Bradd W. Szonye
(05 Jan 2005 01:59 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Per Bothner
(05 Jan 2005 02:13 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax Bradd W. Szonye (05 Jan 2005 03:08 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Per Bothner
(05 Jan 2005 03:39 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Shiro Kawai
(05 Jan 2005 02:39 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Bradd W. Szonye
(05 Jan 2005 02:48 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Taylor Campbell
(03 Jan 2005 22:40 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Bradd W. Szonye
(05 Jan 2005 00:07 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Matthias Radestock
(05 Jan 2005 01:25 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Bradd W. Szonye
(05 Jan 2005 02:41 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Taylor Campbell
(05 Jan 2005 02:52 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Aubrey Jaffer
(05 Jan 2005 03:25 UTC)
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Re: SRFI-10 syntax vs. #nA syntax
Bradd W. Szonye
(05 Jan 2005 03:54 UTC)
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Per Bothner wrote: > In APL, a rank-0 array is the same as a scalar. In Scheme, it would > be difficult to make them the same. One reason is mutability: a > rank-0 array in Scheme and Common Lisp is actually a cell that > contains a mutable value. That may be true in Common Lisp (I don't know it well enough to judge), but it's not currently true in RnRS+SRFI Scheme. As far as I know, only SRFI 47 mentions rank-0 arrays at all, and it uses 0 rank to describe all non-array values. That's closer to the APL meaning. > Even thpugh we talking about literals which are upposed to be > immutable, that doesn't solve the problem whether the dereferencing is > automatic or not: a 0-rank mutable array is a cell, which is different > from the value stored in it. I.e. getting its value requires some > kind of array-ref function call. An immutable value is one where > setting is prohibited (undefined), but getting uses the same functions > as for accessing a mutable value. Hence, scalar cannot be equivalent > to a rank-0 array in Scheme, even though it is the same in APL. Huh? I can't make any sense out of this. Scheme does not /define/ a rank-0 array as a boxed value; Scheme doesn't define arrays at all. And the "boxedness" of a rank-0 array cannot be fundamental, since APL equates rank-0 arrays and scalars. I don't see how you reach your conclusion (rank-0 arrays aren't scalars in Scheme) without assuming it as a premise. Why must rank-0 arrays be boxed values (cells)? That's not self-evident, nor does it seem useful, especially since APL allegedly works differently. -- Bradd W. Szonye http://www.szonye.com/bradd