Re: Overuse of strings
Lauri Alanko
(24 Jan 2006 17:59 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Per Bothner
(24 Jan 2006 19:51 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Alan Bawden
(25 Jan 2006 00:44 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings Alex Shinn (25 Jan 2006 01:39 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Per Bothner
(25 Jan 2006 02:04 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Alan Bawden
(25 Jan 2006 02:50 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Lauri Alanko
(25 Jan 2006 18:19 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Neil Van Dyke
(25 Jan 2006 19:07 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
bear
(25 Jan 2006 22:40 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Lauri Alanko
(26 Jan 2006 07:35 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Alex Shinn
(26 Jan 2006 01:37 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Neil Van Dyke
(26 Jan 2006 02:03 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Anton van Straaten
(26 Jan 2006 10:09 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Lauri Alanko
(26 Jan 2006 10:25 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Alex Shinn
(26 Jan 2006 02:17 UTC)
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Re: Overuse of strings
Ray Blaak
(26 Jan 2006 06:56 UTC)
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On 1/25/06, Alan Bawden <xxxxxx@bawden.org> wrote: > > Lauri Alanko wrote: > > So I suggest > > > > "hello" -> hello > > "scheme://r6rs" -> (scheme r6rs) A minor note no one has mentioned - we could use symbol URIs instead of strings: "scheme://r6rs" -> scheme://r6rs > URI systax is an incredibly ugly thing, as anyone who has ever written a > URI parser can tell you -- but there may well be some advantage in using URIs > if there is some way to leverage all the existing URI/URL/URN > infrastructure. I.e., if something really useful happens if someone uses > "ftp://..." in a Scheme module. I actually think ftp://... (and http://... etc.) would be a horrible mistake to implement, causing security, network and versioning nightmares. Extensions could be made to relieve this, such as http://www.acme.com/wiley/helicopter?version=1.1&md5=... but this is getting extremely ugly. Another questions is that of the semantics of remote module access. The module needs to be accessed both at compile time and load time, but do we cache it in between, or do we in fact implicitly install it? Software should never be installed implicitly (or unknown software executed) without explicit confirmation from the user. Which means you'd suddenly be popping up confirmation dialogs when users run code referring to remote URIs. At this point there is no added convenience and much greater confusion (and inability to run non-interactive code) than a tool which can scan a library and update or install any modules it imports from an external registry. It may make sense to dumb things down and automate everything when installing applications for grandma, but we're programmers, we're perfectly capable of installing libraries ourselves. -- Alex