Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
hga@xxxxxx
(10 Sep 2020 16:29 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(10 Sep 2020 16:34 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Duy Nguyen
(10 Sep 2020 16:42 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Lassi Kortela
(10 Sep 2020 16:57 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Duy Nguyen
(10 Sep 2020 17:09 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Lassi Kortela
(10 Sep 2020 17:21 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Duy Nguyen
(10 Sep 2020 17:35 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(10 Sep 2020 17:37 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
hga@xxxxxx
(10 Sep 2020 17:36 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Duy Nguyen
(10 Sep 2020 17:51 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
John Cowan
(10 Sep 2020 18:11 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Duy Nguyen
(10 Sep 2020 18:49 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
John Cowan
(10 Sep 2020 18:52 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
hga@xxxxxx
(10 Sep 2020 19:02 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Lassi Kortela
(10 Sep 2020 19:12 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(10 Sep 2020 19:08 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Lassi Kortela
(10 Sep 2020 19:16 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
hga@xxxxxx
(10 Sep 2020 19:23 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(10 Sep 2020 19:28 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Shiro Kawai
(10 Sep 2020 19:58 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(10 Sep 2020 20:02 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Shiro Kawai
(10 Sep 2020 20:13 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
John Cowan
(10 Sep 2020 20:19 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170? hga@xxxxxx (10 Sep 2020 20:49 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 13:20 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
hga@xxxxxx
(11 Sep 2020 14:04 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 14:56 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 15:32 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
John Cowan
(10 Sep 2020 20:18 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 13:50 UTC)
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R7RS scope & yearly editions
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 14:10 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 14:22 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 14:26 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
hga@xxxxxx
(11 Sep 2020 14:31 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 14:48 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions & language interop
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 15:20 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions & language interop
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 15:28 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions & language interop
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 17:11 UTC)
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Language interop
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 17:55 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 18:04 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 18:14 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 18:28 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
hga@xxxxxx
(11 Sep 2020 18:51 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 20:29 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
hga@xxxxxx
(11 Sep 2020 21:00 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(12 Sep 2020 07:26 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 19:18 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 20:38 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 20:51 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
hga@xxxxxx
(11 Sep 2020 18:30 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 19:46 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 20:15 UTC)
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Re: Language interop
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 19:42 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
hga@xxxxxx
(11 Sep 2020 15:35 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 15:56 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions & syntax debates are so 1980
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 16:36 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions & syntax debates are so 1980
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 17:02 UTC)
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Interlisp and structural code editing
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 17:45 UTC)
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Re: Interlisp and structural code editing
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 20:16 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 16:57 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 17:23 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 20:31 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
Arthur A. Gleckler
(12 Sep 2020 17:39 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
John Cowan
(11 Sep 2020 16:39 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
(11 Sep 2020 17:01 UTC)
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Re: R7RS scope & yearly editions
Lassi Kortela
(11 Sep 2020 17:15 UTC)
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Re: Remove file descriptors completely from srfi-170?
hga@xxxxxx
(10 Sep 2020 18:40 UTC)
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> From: "Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen" <xxxxxx@nieper-wisskirchen.de> > Date: Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:28 PM > > Am Do., 10. Sept. 2020 um 21:23 Uhr schrieb <xxxxxx@ancell-ent.com>: >> >> Responding to the one question I can immediately answer: >> >>> From: "Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen" <xxxxxx@nieper-wisskirchen.de> >>> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:07 PM >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> PS How can I find out whether (current-input-port) or >>> (current-output-port) is a terminal? >> >> Ummm, and copying from a REPL just to be sure: >> >>> (terminal? (port-internal-fd (current-input-port))) >> #t >> >> port-internal-fd returns a FDO. terminal? can accept a FDO. > > But if the Scheme implementation does not export any FDOs, > port-internal-fd won't help. In that case, you should have \words/ with your SRFI 170 implementor, as long as you're using a POSIX system where this should be literally trivial. Obviously if you're not on top of a POSIX system, like you're using raw Windows, you can only expect a best effort, perhaps including an imperfect or unimplemented post-internal-fd and/or terminal? That's build into the pie when an implementor attempts such a mapping to system with alien paradigms (and it's not entirely bad we don't live in a POSIX monoculture ... for an all too short period in the mid-1990s, it was an absolute pleasure to us NT instead of UNIX(TM)). > I may have missed it earlier, but why doesn't terminal? also work on > a port? Because it duplicates code, including sanity checking, and SRFI 170 is already enough of a monster as it is; we weren't exactly enthusiastic in going through every procedure that could take a port (fd) and cutting that for *every* one except truncate-file and file-info. And using simple procedures as building blocks is the Lisp way, after all. - Harold