SRFI 197: Threading Macros Arthur A. Gleckler (09 Jun 2020 03:41 UTC)
First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 06:48 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (09 Jun 2020 07:27 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 08:30 UTC)
Re: First comments Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 13:25 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 14:06 UTC)
Re: First comments Lassi Kortela (09 Jun 2020 14:12 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 15:28 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 16:05 UTC)
Re: First comments Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 16:15 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 16:22 UTC)
Re: First comments Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 17:03 UTC)
Re: First comments Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:16 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:22 UTC)
Re: First comments Lassi Kortela (09 Jun 2020 17:31 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:40 UTC)
Re: First comments Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 22:19 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 06:16 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (10 Jun 2020 07:17 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 07:38 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (10 Jun 2020 08:21 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 08:42 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (15 Jun 2020 19:50 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (15 Jun 2020 20:09 UTC)
Re: First comments Linus Björnstam (16 Jun 2020 11:39 UTC)
Re: First comments Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 07:53 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 08:04 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:44 UTC)
Re: First comments Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:46 UTC)
Re: First comments Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:49 UTC)
Re: First comments Arvydas Silanskas (09 Jun 2020 07:40 UTC)
Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 13:40 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 13:48 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 14:09 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros hga@xxxxxx (09 Jun 2020 14:16 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Lassi Kortela (09 Jun 2020 14:42 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 14:48 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros hga@xxxxxx (09 Jun 2020 15:10 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 15:25 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 15:47 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 15:58 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 16:21 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 16:46 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:13 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:35 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros John Cowan (11 Jun 2020 00:59 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros hga@xxxxxx (09 Jun 2020 16:58 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Lassi Kortela (09 Jun 2020 17:00 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 17:00 UTC)
Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 15:17 UTC)
Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 17:18 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:24 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 17:48 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Adam Nelson (09 Jun 2020 17:55 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (09 Jun 2020 19:11 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (09 Jun 2020 22:08 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 06:11 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 08:03 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 08:10 UTC)
Association list utilities Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 08:24 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 08:30 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 08:49 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 09:29 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 09:59 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 10:09 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 10:37 UTC)
Re: Association list utilities Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 10:33 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 09:16 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 09:19 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 09:29 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 09:42 UTC)
More on association lists (and other key-value collections) Lassi Kortela (10 Jun 2020 10:16 UTC)
Re: More on association lists (and other key-value collections) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 10:42 UTC)
Re: More on association lists (and other key-value collections) Arne Babenhauserheide (11 Jun 2020 00:41 UTC)
Re: More on association lists (and other key-value collections) Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (11 Jun 2020 10:07 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Arne Babenhauserheide (10 Jun 2020 10:28 UTC)
Re: Usecase: chaining operations after "optionals" Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen (10 Jun 2020 10:32 UTC)

Re: Named procedure; RE: SRFI 197: Threading Macros hga@xxxxxx 09 Jun 2020 16:58 UTC

> From: Adam Nelson <xxxxxx@nels.onl>
> Date: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 11:17 AM
>
> On 6/9/20 11:58 AM, Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen wrote:
>
> > Am Di., 9. Juni 2020 um 17:47 Uhr schrieb Arne Babenhauserheide
> > <xxxxxx@web.de>:
> >
> >> maybe chaining?
>
> > Chaining is nice because it reminds one of the chaining rule in
> > calculus, which is about the composition of functions.

Indeed.

> [ Monads and cut. ]
>
> What needs to be kept in mind here is that the sole purpose of threading
> macros is brevity and readability. If this SRFI is defined in a way that
> sacrifices either of those, there will be no reason to use it, because
> writing expressions plainly, without the threading operator, will always
> be clearer.

Absolutely.  Compare to the regular expressions SRFI 115, which has some
good arguments for its longwinded SREs to avoid the strings ever other
programming or system that I'm aware of uses, and is easy enough to
translate to and from.

> With that said, I am open to a different name for the default operator.
> Right now I'm torn between `seq`, `pipe`, `chain`, and `=>`....

Chaining works at least as well for me as pipelining, perhaps better
since we of course already have pipelining in shells at a much closer
level to our code than CPU pipelining.  Those of us who've used UNIX
for a long time already have a strong association with it.

Which I doubt is true for anything related to "chains" for most or all
of us, at least in orthogonal ways vs. the chain rule.  While still
preferring a non-alphabetic based syntax as inspired by Clojure for
how it stands out in code, "chain" looks likely to work fairly well,
is for me more striking, unusual, than "pipe" or "seq".

- Harold