Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 07 Jun 2021 15:45 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 07 Jun 2021 16:07 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 09 Jun 2021 08:49 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 09:13 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 09 Jun 2021 09:42 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Feeley 09 Jun 2021 10:24 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 10:32 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Feeley 09 Jun 2021 12:16 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 12:40 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Feeley 09 Jun 2021 13:10 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 15:56 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Feeley 09 Jun 2021 18:15 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 10:27 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 14 Oct 2021 10:42 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 09 Jun 2021 17:22 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 17:37 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Peter Bex 08 Jun 2021 05:17 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Per Bothner 08 Jun 2021 05:38 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 09 Jun 2021 09:00 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Per Bothner 10 Jun 2021 17:23 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 21 Jun 2021 07:23 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 09 Jun 2021 08:55 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 09 Jun 2021 14:29 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 14:44 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 09 Jun 2021 17:03 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 17:33 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 09 Jun 2021 17:37 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 17:40 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 09 Jun 2021 19:01 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 09 Jun 2021 19:25 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 10 Jun 2021 10:17 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 10 Jun 2021 11:18 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 12 Jun 2021 22:08 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 21 Jun 2021 07:21 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 21 Jun 2021 10:37 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 29 Jul 2021 09:42 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 29 Jul 2021 23:34 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 30 Jul 2021 07:03 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 30 Jul 2021 07:31 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 30 Jul 2021 21:39 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 30 Jul 2021 21:47 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 30 Jul 2021 21:49 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 30 Jul 2021 21:59 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 30 Jul 2021 21:32 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 31 Jul 2021 10:02 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 31 Jul 2021 10:29 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 31 Jul 2021 17:33 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Daphne Preston-Kendal 31 Jul 2021 17:45 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen 31 Jul 2021 18:04 UTC
Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters John Cowan 31 Jul 2021 19:52 UTC

Re: Reviewing named and optional parameters Marc Feeley 09 Jun 2021 10:24 UTC

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Daphne Preston-Kendal <xxxxxx@nonceword.org> wrote:
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>> If we get rich enough syntactic abstractions, I already wondered (in the context of SRFI 177) whether there is really a need for first-class procedures that take keyword arguments or whether they should all become special forms (with absolutely no runtime overhead). After all, an unknown procedure (a procedure passed around as a first-class value) would very seldom be called with keyword arguments.
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> I considered the possibility of making everything a macro, but I decided losing first-class status of procedures was too high a price to pay, on principle if nothing else. True, it's unlikely (though not impossible) that an arbitrary higher-order procedure (as in map, fold and their respective first arguments) will use keyword arguments, but I can imagine not-so-contrived situations where it would still be useful to pass them around.

I too can imagine situations where having keyword arguments only on macros would be restrictive:

1) In an object oriented programming style where you call a virtual method through generic call.  The generic call site specifies keyword arguments and there is a dispatch to the actual procedure that does the work that consumes the keyword arguments.

2) In higher order procedures whose procedure parameter accepts keyword arguments.  Syntax isn’t a first-class object that can be passed around.

3) In a FFI between Scheme and a foreign language that supports keyword arguments (Python, Ruby, Common Lisp, Ada, C#, Fortran, R, PHP,  Scala, Smalltalk, etc).

Marc