Re: Reasons for withdrawal
Bradd W. Szonye 28 Oct 2003 23:42 UTC
xxxxxx@freenetproject.org wrote:
> <sigh> I have not claimed the SRFI is ready for finalization, only
> that its more constructive to discuss the remaining issues and fix
> them than to withdraw, delaying a concrete collection for a year.
1. The SRFI process is not for preliminary ideas. If there are several
major issues to resolve, you're *supposed* to withdraw the proposal
until you've worked them out.
2. Withdrawal is not supposed to delay anything by a year. You can
potentially resubmit in 30 days and finalize 60 days after that -- IF
you resolve all of the issues that led to withdrawal in the first
place.
3. The desire to get a SRFI finalized and to build on it is *not* a good
excuse to rush into finalizing an immature proposal.
4. SRFI-44 clearly meets the definition of an "immature proposal."
> If you'll notice, in the last posted draft, vectors are purely mutable
> sequences, so they in no way conflict with R5RS. This was fixed at
> the same time that ! and !! were merged.
And you're making these revisions 6 months into the draft period. Even
if you ignore summer break, that still clearly meets the definition of
an immature proposal that must be withdrawn.
> Its statements you make like this that keep me arguing so strongly
> with you. You seem hell bent on withdrawal, making up reasons such as
> these that have already been addressed.
That's because withdrawal is the right thing to do in this situation.
>> There have been *plenty* of other exception-handling systems in other
>> languages, but that didn't excuse SRFI-34 from providing a complete
>> implementation. You two need to demonstrate that *your*
>> implementation works.
> SRFI-34 didn't provide a complete package.
How so? It's entirely usable on its own. It provides everything that
primitive C++ exceptions give you, for example.
> It provided the mechanism, defering to 35 for the datastructure, which
> itself defered to 36 for concrete instances of the datastructure.
Those aren't necessary to use SRFI-34.
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